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H.R. 428: to ban toys guns which in size, shape, or overall
« on: January 20, 2007, 06:44:38 PM »
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H.R. 428: To require the Consumer Product Safety Commission to ban toys which in size, shape, or overall...
HR 428 IH



110th U.S. Congress (2007-2008)
H.R. 428: To require the Consumer Product Safety Commission to ban toys which in size, shape, or overall...
HR 428 IH


110th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 428
To require the Consumer Product Safety Commission to ban toys which in size, shape, or overall appearance resemble real handguns.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES


January 11, 2007

Mr. TOWNS introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Energy and Commerce


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A BILL
To require the Consumer Product Safety Commission to ban toys which in size, shape, or overall appearance resemble real handguns.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,


SECTION 1. BAN ON REALISTIC-LOOKING TOY HANDGUNS.

The Consumer Product Safety Commission shall promulgate a rule in accordance with section 9 of the Consumer Product Safety Act (15 U.S.C. 2058) to declare as a banned hazardous product under section 8 any toy which in size, shape, or overall appearance resembles a real handgun.
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2007, 06:50:03 PM »
not good...
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2007, 07:00:29 PM »
Oh f**k that s**t!
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2007, 07:04:22 PM »
Ya know, on 2nd thought, it'll never pass.  The requirements are WAY to broad.  That would include airsoft (GOD HELP US), squirt guns, wooden rubber-band guns, laser tag guns, dart guns, and all manner of COLORFUL, ODD SHAPED, and CLEARLY DISCERNIBLE recreational toys.  Thats a real load.  Toys and all kinds of crap like that? Its too much fun.  Kids eat that stuff up, I know I did.  I was a Desperado.  Don't take that away.
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2007, 07:12:49 PM »
It says handguns.

But, that's OK, because that will never pass. If it does, that will just make our like, underground hobby more underground.
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2007, 07:18:35 PM »
This law will never pass; No findings, no co-sponsors, and no K-street lobbyists to pressure other legislators.  Also, its like a paragraph long.  My average forum post is longer than the act text.  I kept thinking Adobe Reader was broken.
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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2007, 07:22:09 PM »
Yeah, Vince I remember in 92 when we said the AWB would never pass either,

 Its things to come, Real firearms have the NRA-ILA and other groups behind them, WHO will back toy guns, Mattel?  


And for that statement it just hands guns, That will be the beginning of the end of Airsoft cause next they will include all real looking gun,

So you guys better start buying up Alien pulse rifles
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2007, 07:59:47 PM »
just great  [smilie=armata_pdt_09.gif]  but we can settle this our selves  [smilie=armata_pdt_40.gif]
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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2007, 10:54:13 PM »
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just great armata_PDT_09 but we can settle this our selves armata_PDT_40


Indeed, it might be a good idea to at least write a few letters, just to let 'em know they have a "bloc" to yell at them if they think of voting "Aye."  You can find out who your congressional rep is with this site:

http://www.house.gov/writerep/

Just pick Arizona from the list and enter your zip code.

This is a concise, but thorough guide on writting letters to congress:

http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa020199.htm
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2007, 12:00:54 AM »
I just got done writing my congressman.  South Western Oregon.  I think we'll get his support.  :lol:



I hope.
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2007, 01:10:40 AM »
It doesn't surprise me that these toy gun ban laws keep rising up, but there's got to be a better solution than banning them.  The stuff that gives airsoft a bad rap is the random kid brandishing the airsoft gun in some public place.  If it comes to increased regulations there has got to be some sort of compromise to avoid a total ban.  To my knowledge, the majority of airsofters don't do stupid crap with their airsoft guns and it's a very small percentage of airsofters that cause all the trouble.  If a politician is going to treat them as if it's a real gun (which is my best guess as to one of his reasons for this bill, posing an airsoft gun as a real gun) then airsoft guns should have the same priviledges as real firearms.  There are shootings all over the country where people are severely injured and killed, yet civilians can purchase firearms, hell, im still in high school and i can purchase a long gun.  It just doesn't make sense that in the future it is possible for me to buy a lethal weapon, but an airgun that shoots plastic bbs, is too dangerous of an item.  If there's something I'm not seeing in this issues, just speak up and let me know.
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2007, 01:31:42 AM »
Well once again we can thank the democrats.  Instead of focusing on real problems they have to tackle their old standby, gun control.  Personally I don't think this one will pass, but never say never.  Just because the majority of airsofters don't abuse the privilege doesn't mean they won't ban or regulate it heavily.  Just look a how few legally owned guns are use in crime, but they want to ban, and regulate that as well.  Perhaps airsoft needs some sort of national organization to defend it against this kind of crap legislation.
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2007, 01:37:01 AM »
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Well once again we can thank the democrats.  Instead of focusing on real problems they have to tackle their old standby, gun control.  Personally I don't think this one will pass, but never say never.  Just because the majority of airsofters don't abuse the privilege doesn't mean they won't ban or regulate it heavily.  Just look a how few legally owned guns are use in crime, but they want to ban, and regulate that as well.  Perhaps airsoft needs some sort of national organization to defend it against this kind of crap legislation.


Yea i was missing the democrats  :lol:

Just one more reason to not be liberal (no offense intended to you liberals out there) :lol:
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2007, 06:38:29 AM »
i mean i go airsofting in a wash and alot of the people like it, and they watch too.also we got pulled over by a cop and it was only for us finding a shopping cart and he had the right to confiscate them sense were under age :D
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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2007, 10:37:33 AM »
I see this as another case of attempted "social engineering".

I don't know about you older guys, but my generation has had it constantly drummed into our heads by public schools that "violence never solves anything".  In reality, violence, or the threat of violence, has probably solved more problems than anything else in history.

By banning things that look like guns, they're trying to instill an unwarranted fear of them, thus making them easier to ban in the future when one of those "we're doing it for the children" groups gets loud enough.  

It's all a ploy to get us to rely more on the state than our own self initiative, because by God, those guys in Washington are inherently smarter and better than the rest of us and we should have them protect us. :roll:
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