« previous next »
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4

Author Topic:  (Read 5316 times)

Offline Wolf

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sergeant
  • *****
  • Posts: 182
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2004, 05:15:31 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Just a few months ago over in San Berdo deputies/officers missed a .45 on a SHOOTING SUSPECT. That's right, the suspect had just shot a officer. The suspect pulled the .45 out of his pants in an interview room and blew his own brains out.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Thanks for the info. I just found it interesting that he missed it in the small of his back (seems like it would be the most obvious place.)
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Wolf »
Logged
Cover your six

Offline Ninja

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Master Sergeant
  • *****
  • Posts: 422
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2004, 11:58:03 AM »
Hahah. "until some genius invented hollow-points"

Well, the first soft point was invented in the 1897...

So this gangsta must be incredibly old-school.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Ninja »
Logged
\"The old 1911 continues along its way to replacing the dog as man\'s best friend.\" -Jeff Cooper

Offline TheCrow

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sergeant
  • *****
  • Posts: 170
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2004, 07:55:41 PM »
This kind of crappy misinformation is everywhere.  I have a 'gangsta wannabe' at work who believed the following:

-Black Talons are 'cop killers' and can penetrate armor.

-Black Talons are illegal.

-If you shoot someone with a .50 cal weapon (he mainly meant an Desert Eagle .50) you will automatically go to jail, even in justifiable self-defense.

-You can get good finger prints off a fired bullet (no, I am not talking about an ejected case).

There are other examples, but those were the ones that made me laugh the hardest.  I have been educating him ever since.

Just shows how many 'firearm ignorant' people are out there.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by TheCrow »
Logged

Team ORION Squad Leader

Offline Paco

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Brigadier General
  • *****
  • Posts: 1507
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2004, 08:53:01 PM »
You're educating a "gangsta wannabe"?  Noooooooo!  [:p]
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Paco »
Logged

Offline Basher

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sergeant First Class
  • *****
  • Posts: 311
    • View Profile
    • http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/index.php?topic=ezo
(No subject)
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2004, 09:29:09 PM »
Oh, man, that whole thing is classic. I loved the hollow point crap. Sure they've got teflon coated bullets. It's called Moly, and it sure as heck ain't made to punch better holes through Kevlar. Although I've heard it does wonders in reducing copper fouling and increasing velocity through reduced friction. [:D]
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Basher »
Logged

Offline Greg

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 1381
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2004, 01:15:14 PM »
I think the misconceptions about black talons came from littleton. Didn't those two dumbasses at columbine use them? Then of course the media jumped on it and every one of those gangsta wannabees went out and bought a tec9 and some black talons. Am I right?
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Greg »
Logged
-Greg of Christian\'s Team

Offline Harley

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Major General
  • *****
  • Posts: 2254
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2004, 03:12:08 PM »
Actually Black Talons were taken off the public market years before that.  Due to gansta's shooting each other naturally.  Black Talons do hold up to their reputation.  A retired Deputy Sheriff I know back in NY showed me some pictures of what one did to some guys leg, dime sized hole on one side, silver dollar size on the other.  Ouch!
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Harley »
Logged
\"Just because you\'re paranoid, doesn\'t mean they\'re not out to get you!\"

\"Have Gun - Will Travel\"

Offline Paco

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Brigadier General
  • *****
  • Posts: 1507
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2004, 03:20:36 PM »
I have 5 boxes of Winchester Ranger SXT .45ACP.  It's the same as the old Winchester "Black Talon" ammo except it's no longer a "black" color, but it's the same.  It's tough to find since Winchester doesn't market or sell it to individuals.  I got it from a LEO in a trade a while ago.  The boxes have "LEO Only" on them - lol.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Paco »
Logged

Offline Harley

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Major General
  • *****
  • Posts: 2254
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2004, 03:38:25 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Paco</i>
<br />I have 5 boxes of Winchester Ranger SXT .45ACP.  It's the same as the old Winchester "Black Talon" ammo except it's no longer a "black" color, but it's the same.  It's tough to find since Winchester doesn't market or sell it to individuals.  I got it from a LEO in a trade a while ago.  The boxes have "LEO Only" on them - lol.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Bad policeman, selling cop ammo to a private citizen!!! Now don't go out and macdaddy some poor smuck Paco!
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Harley »
Logged
\"Just because you\'re paranoid, doesn\'t mean they\'re not out to get you!\"

\"Have Gun - Will Travel\"

Offline Paco

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Brigadier General
  • *****
  • Posts: 1507
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2004, 03:58:00 PM »
I'm sure you already know, but I should clarify that it's completely legal for "civilians" to own and use, it's just tough to find because of Winchester's marketing and sales restrictions.  Occasionally you can find it at a gun show and store that sells to LEO.

I fired one box of it to make sure my handguns liked it (not one FTF/FTE) and now I will use it only for home defense/carry since it's so tough to find.  From the reviews and ballistic tests, pretty much everyone agrees that the Winchester SXT and Speer Gold-Dot ammo are the best HP/self-defense ammo you can get.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Paco »
Logged

Offline Harley

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Major General
  • *****
  • Posts: 2254
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2004, 04:09:32 PM »
Oh I know Paco, I'm just teasing you.  I know guys with cases of Black Talons that were purchased after they made that regulation.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Harley »
Logged
\"Just because you\'re paranoid, doesn\'t mean they\'re not out to get you!\"

\"Have Gun - Will Travel\"

Offline TheCrow

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sergeant
  • *****
  • Posts: 170
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2004, 04:29:05 PM »
I will not buy anything Winchester produces.  After they caved and pulled the Black Talons off the shelves, I sold the boxes I had and never looked back.

Interesting side note:  I was the first person in Wichita, Kansas to purchse Black Talons when they came out.

Paco, do yourself a favor, dump the SXT and buy some Glasers or Hydra-Shoks.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by TheCrow »
Logged

Team ORION Squad Leader

Offline Basher

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sergeant First Class
  • *****
  • Posts: 311
    • View Profile
    • http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/index.php?topic=ezo
(No subject)
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2004, 05:18:13 PM »
Geesh, I'd keepthe SXT if it were me. Those Safety Slugs sure do cost a lot, and frankly, if I were old enough to CCW, I'd darn well like to practice with what I'd be betting my life on. At something like $12 for 6-8 rounds, I'll stick with the premium lines. Those Hydr-Shoks would be an exceptable replacement.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Basher »
Logged

Offline Paco

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Brigadier General
  • *****
  • Posts: 1507
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2004, 05:19:33 PM »
I like the Speer GoldDot ammo - that's what I have in .40 and 9mm.  I only have the SXT in 45ACP (which, yes, I'll be keeping).  I do buy the Winchester White Box ammo at Wal-Mart.  $10 per box of 100 (9mm) is too good to pass up for me.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Paco »
Logged

Offline Basher

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sergeant First Class
  • *****
  • Posts: 311
    • View Profile
    • http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/index.php?topic=ezo
(No subject)
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2004, 05:27:50 PM »
Paco, I'm with you on the White Box. .40 is pretty expensive, and since all I do right now is plink, that 100 rounds for $14.99 sure is easy on the pocket. But boy I'd like to trade my Beretta 96 for a nice Kimber 1911! If only . . .
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Basher »
Logged
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4
« previous next »