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Israeli Aggression in Lebanon...
« on: July 21, 2006, 12:12:15 AM »
It's been all over the news, and plenty of other message boards I visit regularly, that I'm rather surprised the issue hasn't been brought up here. So, with that being said, I'd like to know how you all feel on this topic. Could this be the next world war in the making, or is the heat simply getting to a few people in the Mid-East. I'd love to what you all have to say on this, just keep it clean and appropriate, shall we? ;)
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2006, 12:25:16 AM »
wOOt! go get em heebs.

I loved reading about the islamic militant priest exile from brittan that tried to be evacuated and was denied.

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0 ... 61,00.html
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2006, 12:41:51 AM »
I find it funny how the UN is making Israel look like the bad guy. First they help create Israel and now they bend over backwards for the Muslim world, I guess it probably doesn't help that Syria is on the security council.

Anyway all politics aside, I think this will be an excellent showcase for the might of the IDF. If they were unfettered by political BS, they would've turned the Middle East into one giant Jewish super state by now.
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2006, 10:50:07 AM »
I think we should follow Isreal's example.  Think about it: these ragheads cross international borders and kidnap Isreali soldiers then fire rockets at civillian targets.  Those are acts of war in my book.  Yet the UN continues to be bias against Isreal.  Isreal-bashing has become the new past-time in "intellectual" circles and in the media.

I don't think this will turn into the next world war, but the Arab countries are long overdue for an ass-kicking.  They've been poking the tiger in the eye for a couple decades now, so I'm not surprised that they're getting what they deserve.

Look at the way the Arabs fight too.  They're all cowards. They know that they can't stand up to Isreal(they tried to invade a few times with disasterous results), so they go blow themselves up in crowds of civillians. Then, when Isreal retaliates, they whine and complain to the UN that they are the "victims".

All I can say is GO ISREAL!
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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2006, 12:10:47 PM »
I wouldn't say that Arabs are cowards. First of all we are talking about Islamic Fundamentalist, and I have no problem with "Arabs".

As for the IF's... Coward to us is resourceful to them.

During the relovutionary war the British thought we were cowards by fighting an unconventional war by allowing our men to lay down and fire.

IF's would be stupid to face us on an open battlefield.
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2006, 01:07:11 PM »
That's still no excuse for going after civillians
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2006, 02:17:48 PM »
Quote from: "The Cartographer"
That's still no excuse for going after civillians


Sure there is its called "WAR" and for me it has no rules, Germany and Britain bombed civilian populations in WW2, did that bother you?

Its like getting into a fight, there are no rules, the winner is the last one standing.
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2006, 02:33:44 PM »
Quote from: "The Cartographer"
That's still no excuse for going after civillians


How do you think we won World War II ....??  By blowing the entire enemy population back to the dark ages....

we should nuke the islamic nations too... a lot of civilians would die but so would all th terrorists....

the only way THIS war will end is for ALL of the terrorists to DIE.

Thats war....
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2006, 02:44:20 PM »
If I was in Lebanon after a day of war... I'm either dead, fighting back, or stupid.
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2006, 02:52:31 PM »
Nuking would only create more enemies (Like Me,:) ) No really, that kind of aggression is like chopping off your foot due to a hang nail.

The issues are lost once the first stone of war is cast because war never solved an issue it only manages the hate and fear of man until a solution is offered and accepted.

So until the Fundamentalist die, change, or loss value in the eyes of their people we will continue to kick their ass…
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2006, 08:34:33 PM »
All I know is my happy infantry ass gets to kill soon.
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2006, 09:54:56 PM »
I wouldn't call it cowardice.  To voluntarily sacrifice your life to strike at the enemy takes more determination and resolve than I'd bet most of our soldiers have.  You can call it cruel, criminal, and unjust, but cowardly it's not.

You have to understand their way of thinking, as well.  The Palestinians were literally kicked out of their traditional homelands to make room for jews.  Imagine if tommorow the UN came into Phoenix and ordered all of us to relocate to refugee camps in the Nevada desert because Arizona was being returned to Mexico.  The Palestinians have a very, very legitimate reason to be angry.

Now, that being said, Israel does exist.  In the past, they have offered the Palestinians 95% of what they want in an effort to make a peaceful settlement, and it was rejected.  They've fought to defend their nation, not to conquer or eliminate others.  And now armed groups infiltrate their country and kidnap their soldiers.  They have no choice but to do what they are doing now.  Frankly, I think now it is more about pummmeling the sh!t out of Hezbollah than getting their soldiers back, and that's probably what needs to happen.

And nuking the Middle East would create more problems than it would solve; the backlash from that from every other nation in the world would be like nothing we've ever seen.  And, you still haven't solved the problem; Islamic extremism is also rampant throughout Africa, parts of the Southeast Asia, and increasingly in Europe.

Doc, this war can end without all of the terrorists dying.  Besides, you never will be able to kill them all.  Kill the ones that are out there now, continue to hunt them down and destroy them.  Than exert influence to change the cultures which breed them.  Why do you think we went to Iraq?  It wasn't for WMDs, I don't think.  More important.  To create a free, peaceful, prospering Arab state to start changing the Arab culture.  To provide another voice other than Madrassahs, to provide a different way of life than under an Islamic dictatorship.
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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2006, 10:22:38 AM »
I believe Ghostsequel hit it right on the head. However, Cartographer, you are sorely mistaken. Both the Israelis and the Arabs fire at civilian targets, however, the Israelis have the power to say that they killed "militants." Furthermore, the Hezbollah response was due to Israel's attack on the Palestinian government, what with kidnapping a group of democratically elected cabinet members and firing upon the Prime Minister's office, this is a huge no-no.

Unfortunately, the Arabs are on the short end of the stick, as Israel has had the support of the US and Britain since its creation. Who do you think made the rockets that Israel is firing into Beirut right now? The only way to stop this terrorist farming area is to stop supporting Israel with as much money and munitions as we do, or to equally arm the Palestinians, and let them fight it out.
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« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2006, 01:58:45 PM »
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Who do you think made the rockets that Israel is firing into Beirut right now?
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Do you read the news, or just guess... the rockets were built in Iran and Lebanon (Beriut) is firing them at any part of Isreal they can reach...

Isreal has AH-64 and I am damn glad they do! And the they are targeting Hezbolla not just any part of Lebanon.
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« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2006, 02:06:21 PM »
From earlier in the conflict, but still a great quote:

Earlier, Israel's chief of staff, Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz, told Israel's Channel 10, "If the soldiers are not returned, we will turn Lebanon's clock back 20 years."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/ ... index.html
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