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Ask your upgrading question here.....
« on: March 03, 2006, 12:15:44 AM »
For all you new guys. I am starting to see a lot of questions ALL over the board about upgrades and such.
 
 What I am a few others can do it answer your questions right here under this thread.

Please do not ask how to fix a 9 dollar springer or how to upgrade an 29 dollar spring rifle cause I will tell you to throw it away!

If you need help with a SRC,CA,ICS,TM,G&G,Star, or any other airsoft AEG similar to the one mentioned then go ahead and ask

We can also talk about GBB and Sniper rifles Spring and gas


My experience is pretty vast with AEGs and there's still new things I come across almost every build. So I don't claim to know it all just enough to get you going in the right direction.
 
maybe others will chime in to help you out also, But please if you don't know yourself then don't reply setback and take in all the info
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2006, 12:32:34 AM »
Good topic, Gixser. This should be made a sticky.

I'll start.

Weapon: KWA Glock 34

My question is what kind of upgrades are available, and what is useful about those upgrades? I want to get a metal slide, and a tightbore for it, and I already know why I want those. What are my advantages of putting in...highflow valves and hammer springs? What is the point of an enhanced loading muzzle, or an upgraded piston head?
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2006, 12:41:05 AM »
You would start with a GBB question

I would say its dependability, I know you get a few extra FPS with the Hi flow valves but its a trade off cause now you lowered your rd count, More pressure takes more gas equal less shoots per mag

Metal slide gives it that real feel and makes it stronger if dropped

Tight bore= slightly higher FPS with better accuracy

the rest I want to say its just for dependability

I know you already know about the tightbore and slide I just wanted to state it for everyone else
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2006, 04:23:53 PM »
I have a question for you i have a ca m15a4 and im running a 9.6 v 3300mah
battery. the only upgrades i have installed is a 120 spring. First off would this battery damage the stock spring, gears, and or piston of a cam15a4? and secondly does the 120 spring prevent this from happening?
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2006, 06:36:00 PM »
Ok. First off you seem very uneducated about how an AEG works. But thats ok. Searching the forums is a great way to learn alot of good information. It may take quite a bit of time, but it is well worth it.

Now to answer your questions.  I'll start off with your battery question. No the battery will not damage your AEG.  9.6v is fine for what you have currently. The stock parts in a CA are pre upgraded for the most part, so you dont have to worry there. Now the M120 spring question.  The M120 spring is a lot stronger spring than the factory spring originally in the CA gun.  SO with that in mind your have added more wear and tear to your gearbox by adding a stonger spring that has more force exerted. So this would mean that, no the M120 spring does not prevent damage to your internal parts but infact puts more stress on them. But I wouldn't worry about that as CA is, like I said, pre upgraded from the factory. Metal gears, bushings and ect. The only thing that I would recommend for your gun is to install a silent piston head set as it will lower the stress on your  gearbox. Hope this helps.
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2006, 08:06:49 PM »
I have kjw mk1 sniper rifle but im haveing a hard time finding the tight bore barrel and metal hop up.  If any one knows where to get them tell me i need to know. ;)
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2006, 01:51:31 AM »
I have a TM M733 Commando I found an RAS Rail system to replace the stock front end of this gun cause I need that Gangsta Grip.

So my question is on my 733 the battery is held in the stock front end grip if i go ahead with a replacement of the stock front end will i have to do some rewiring to get my battery into my gun.

Any help would be much appreciated because if its to much of an hassel to put an RAS on this gun im just going to get a CA M15A4 CQB.

Thanks In Advance
Greg
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2006, 09:37:49 AM »
Quote from: "robert"
I have kjw mk1 sniper rifle but im haveing a hard time finding the tight bore barrel and metal hop up.  If any one knows where to get them tell me i need to know. ;)


As of now good luck, very hard to find. A very few over seas shops carried these parts, but the sites text were in japanese anyway. US retailers that did carry these parts got them from the prementioned Japanese sites. Plus I don't think they made a tight bore, just an extended bull barrel kit, which increased the FPS way over 500fps.

EDIT: found site
http://www.kicbbgun.com.tw/shop/advance ... ywords=mk1
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2006, 10:09:22 AM »
Quote from: "Spanky1234"
I have a TM M733 Commando I found an RAS Rail system to replace the stock front end of this gun cause I need that Gangsta Grip.

So my question is on my 733 the battery is held in the stock front end grip if i go ahead with a replacement of the stock front end will i have to do some rewiring to get my battery into my gun.

Any help would be much appreciated because if its to much of an hassel to put an RAS on this gun im just going to get a CA M15A4 CQB.

Thanks In Advance
Greg


There are a lot of options, but I need more info. on battery type you want to use (large or small), any upgrades, do you want to keep the batt. in front or rewire for a crane stock. But after all that, battery box on the front rail is the simple solution.
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2006, 10:30:30 AM »
Quote from: "Spanky1234"
I have a TM M733 Commando I found an RAS Rail system to replace the stock front end of this gun cause I need that Gangsta Grip.

So my question is on my 733 the battery is held in the stock front end grip if i go ahead with a replacement of the stock front end will i have to do some rewiring to get my battery into my gun.

Any help would be much appreciated because if its to much of an hassel to put an RAS on this gun im just going to get a CA M15A4 CQB.

Thanks In Advance
Greg


If you put on a RAS/RIS system, you will need to either rewire your battery to the back and use a full stock/crane stock or get a AN/PEQ or similar battery box and a battery that fits in it, which will attach to your rail system.
Such as this: http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper.ph ... fc6b9492d4
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2006, 12:01:29 PM »
I need to replace a motor pinion - currently it has a systema pinion that broke a tooth and ate itself - the rest of the insides are just fine for now tho.  I've been looking around and found several pinions, but can't find which ones are good and which are to be avoided with an upgraded gun.

This particular gun has got quite a load of good parts - systema high speed gears and motor being most notable for this situation.

So far I've seen classic army and systema motor pinion (hardened also for the systema), as well as guarder motor pinions.  This pinion is attached with a set screw (grub screw) and the motor shaft has a flat spot for it.  Is the guarder pinion a press fit type? or a grub screw type? I need to replace this asap, so any input is greatly appreciated!
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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2006, 12:20:17 PM »
After you get your gearbox back together and fire it several times in auto and semi, will you have a small amount of movement on the air nozzel?  Meaning after firing in semi, can you take your finger and push back on the nozzel and push it towards the gearbox slightly.  Is this normal operation?  Should there be that small amount of play there or should it be held tight against the cylinder head by way of the tappet plate?    The amount of movement I am experiencing is very minimal, like the width of a pin head.

Just figuring out if that is the reason why the nozzel is sticking just a bit to far in the hop up unit to not allow bbs to feed up into the chamber.  Or if I need to modify my hop up lower to allow it to move forward just a hair more so that the nozzel will not be partially in the way of the bb when loading.  Im asking all this because I dont want to mod the hop up lower if that is not the case, cause once I do that It cant be undone. Thanks for your help in advance.
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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2006, 12:35:15 PM »
Mine does that sometimes, it depends on how the gears rest in relation to the tappet plate. When you push the nozzle back and it springs forward, you know that the tappet plate and spring are working right.
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2007, 05:56:57 PM »
I have a CA M15a4 and I want to Put in a TBB, M120 spring, new Hop-up, maybe a new motor, and maybe a new piston.  What kind of Hop, piston, and motor would you recomend?  :?  Thanks :)
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2007, 06:30:55 PM »
Quote from: "devildog16"
I have a CA M15a4 and I want to Put in a TBB, M120 spring, new Hop-up, maybe a new motor, and maybe a new piston.  What kind of Hop, piston, and motor would you recomend?  :?  Thanks :)


The first thing I would examine is why you want to change the motor and piston.  I'm not 100% up to speed with what is cool or "necessary" anymore, but I  do know that typically, if something isn't broke - don't fix it.

I've never had any problems with any CA motors I've ever used.  However, I've also always had sub-400 FPS upgrades and never delved into using a different motor for rate of fire, etc.  Same deal with the piston.  I've always been just fine getting my velocity from the spring instead of a different piston.

I've had the stock CA Hop Up unit in one of my CA CQBs for almost 2 years now.  I've also had a Systema hop up unit in another CA CQB and I certainly can't tell the difference.  Neither have the stock CA hop up bucking.  I've heard others say that the bucking is crap and need to be replaced, but I know there are many stock CA AEGs out there that have no problems with them.

Maybe you have a specific goal in mind, but my advice is to not think that certain things must be upgraded merely because they are stock and aftermarket parts exist.
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