Molle Vest

[Ares]

it carries a lot nicer if you use fake plates. gives it more stability.

[Greg]

One final question:

Do you use fake plates in your Wee, or is it fine w/o? Because I've heard numerous things about it being unbalanced w/o them.

It sucks without them unless you fold the bib down and remove the rear carrier entirely.

[Str7k3r]

So what plates should I get? Again guys, thanks for all the information, and I hope to get going soon so I can skrim with you guys!

[searscr]

Does anybody have experience with The Tactical gear at Cheaper Than Dirt?

[Sergeant First Class Keenan]

My personal favorite rig right now is the T.A.G. Low Profile Chest Rig with the camel pack included, even though I rearley use a camel pack in the field for training or in country (makes alot of noise when you run!) I do like having a small pack to store either medical stuff or extra ammo for my saw gunner.

I also like the T.A.G. one because the cumberbund has pouches for 8 mag's. and addtional room molle attachments for more puches to be added, that and its low profile enough to move quickly in.

I also like the BlackHawk Commando chest rig provided you spend the cash to get the rear peice. Trust me your back will hurt if you carry your whole laod on your chest.

The Vest your looking at is a good vest if you do alot of standing around and guarding things, and its really good at retaining heat. I'd recomend it if your primarly in a defensive role. If your an assaulter you would need something more flexable and more breathable.

Just 2 cents from a 3 tour combat vet.

[searscr]

I am looking at the Chest Rig with Hydration Carrier.  item # molle-137.  I want to stay away from the vest because I get quite hot.

[Ganef]

I dont like mag pouches that are in the cummerbund because you loose th useability of the side ones as it wraps around your body and changes the shape of the slot the mag is supposed to fit in.

That looks like a copy of an SOTech hellcat. If $30 is your budget for gear then I guess that is the best you can do.

CTD stuff is well stitched and may look good for a few days, but the materials are sub par and you will find that they fail and begin to tear and separate. I wouldnt buy a cubbord out of particle board, and I wouldnt buy gear out of anything less than 1000D cordura nylon.

[searscr]

Thank you for your help.

[Sergeant First Class Keenan]

Ganef what do you mean loose the useability of the side ones? I'm just wondering not knocking your knowledge.

The big reason must active military guys like cumberbunds is cause "in country" we wear the issue IBA and either attach the needed pouches to the IBA itself or wear some form of LBV that we put on over the IBA.

Most Joe's perfer carring ammo and mags low and around the stomach/waist area, that way when riding in a track/humvee your not uncomfortable. The other reason why, is it doesn't screw up your back.

You are right about 1000D Cordura Nylon, everything else is just waiting to fall apart.

[Vince]

He means INSIDE the cummerbund, like in an internal system such as the HSGI Weesatch. There's no rigidity to it, it's just two layers of material, so, when you put it on, and it wraps around your kidneys/guts, you can't fit any mags in there, follow me?

[Sergeant First Class Keenan]

Vince,

I've never had that problem with a the T.A.G. cumberbund. But I know everyday new tac gear is released. Thats why myself and most other real world troops love molle gear, we can change our set up. And re do things for the task at hand.

When I did jungle warfare school back in the late 90's all we took out with us was a canteen in our cargo poket and 5 mags with 1 in the mag well, little to no gear cause it got caught on stuff.

Over in the sandbox this last time we were told we had to wear all of our ppe but most of us only wore the IBA with plates cause the other gear was bulky and in the way. plus it was heavy enough as it was I rarely went oscar mike with less then 18 mags loaded with 27 rds each, really heavy but thats 2 combat loads.

When we pulled gaurd duty we'd only carry between a half and full combat load, with the least amount of gear as possible. gotta be mobile if stuff starts blowing up.

Anyway Ganef I met Rob today over at Jungletoy and I checked out your website. Nice stuff. Did I mention I'm the Supply Sgt at my unit these days.........    :!: