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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2006, 12:54:53 PM »
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well you could buy a shotgun and keep that in the back of your car, I think you only have to be 16 to own a shotgun.


Nope, i'm sure it's 18 to own any kind of rifle.  Which is why i want a real steel AK47   8)

As for keeping it in my car... i can get charged if i am pulled over and the rifle is loaded....  at least that what i was told...
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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2006, 12:59:23 PM »
you can legally own one at 18. you can carry one on your person as long as it is not concealed. Unconcealed defenition is roughly having 1-2" recognizeable as a firearm. I used to roll with my Glock-17 when I was 18 in an "inside the waistband" holster, with just the end of the handle and slide slightly prudruding out of my shirt. when Id go into stores or walmart or something where a gun is slightly taboo, and I'd cover it with my shirt completely while on private property, but never walking down the street. the issue of you having one while you are in your car is still legal. as long as it is visible. if you get pulled over, the first thing you do is tell the police officer there is a weapon in the car. - then follow his instructions to the t as to what he/she wants you to do with it. It was almost always - they would unload it and lock the slide back and either rest it on the seat or on the roof. it is totally legal for you to own one through private sale, carry one visibly in public except where prohibited, and transport one in your vehicle. Conversely, it is not legal to purchase ammunition for a pistol until you are 21.. go figure right.
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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2006, 12:59:55 PM »
If you buy a handgun, you'll have to re-evaluate what you think "self control" is....getting slapped around by some thug may not be reason to send him to eternity.  There's a very fine line there and once you cross it you can never go back.

BTW, taking advice from a bunch on 13 year olds about cruising around in your pizza wagon with a shotgun might not be the wisest thing to do...IMO.
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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2006, 01:00:13 PM »
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well you could buy a shotgun and keep that in the back of your car, I think you only have to be 16 to own a shotgun.

Nope, i'm sure it's 18 to own any kind of rifle.  Which is why i want a real steel AK47   8)

As for keeping it in my car... i can get charged if i am pulled over and the rifle is loaded....  at least that what i was told...


Oh, well you should at least carry a switchblade or some sort of knife.
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« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2006, 01:00:37 PM »
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I thought about trying to get one... but i don't know... having one at my age inside my car is risky... and very illegal.  My friend Gilbert, who is 24, has a small 9mm he keeps in his glove box for such occasions.  I'm sure one would be of some help in such occasions... knowing my luck.  s*** also tends to happen more to me just cuz i'm the "little guy"... a.k.a. "easy target."  I can purchase a pistol from a private owner... right?  I'm more worried about the legality of ownership.


EDIT: Ivan got it already.
You can purchase a handgun from a private party at 18, and open carry, shoot, keep in a storage compartment of your car, all you want(under the seat or the like is considered concealed).  However you cannot purchase ammo yourself.

And you may also consider, what is more valuable, your life that has a obvious threat at the moment, or a misdemenor for carrying concealed without a permit.

Just some thoughts.  But sounds like you restrained yourself well and stood your ground.
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« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2006, 01:01:05 PM »
^^^^^^
They got it for me.
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« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2006, 01:10:27 PM »
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well you could buy a shotgun and keep that in the back of your car, I think you only have to be 16 to own a shotgun.

Nope, i'm sure it's 18 to own any kind of rifle.  Which is why i want a real steel AK47   8)

As for keeping it in my car... i can get charged if i am pulled over and the rifle is loaded....  at least that what i was told...

Oh, well you should at least carry a switchblade or some sort of knife.


dude.. one thing about 13 year olds.. they should be seen not heard. Especially in a situation where they have no experience or speak with a clue.. back in your cage popalooza.. no disrespect youngster, but listen and learn... then speak.
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« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2006, 01:18:28 PM »
You can't plug someone for slapping you?!  Well, you can, but then you'll be getting plugged in prison.  Take pride in you character and how you reacted to the situation and know that what goes around comes around.
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« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2006, 01:24:23 PM »
As someone who owns a number of handguns, and have for over a decade at this point, I just felt like adding in my 2 cents on this issue. Tell me to get back in my lane if you like, but based on personal experience:

1) The FIRST thing you say to an officer (right after saying hello, sir, of course) is that you have a weapon in the vehicle. When doing so it helps put the officer at ease if your hands are visible to him when you say it. Don't hold up your hands in the air, I suggest putting them on the windowsill next to you. It also helps if you have already killed the ignition in the car. Biggest point here is to be upfront, non-confrontational, and agreeable about it. Putting the officer at ease makes the rest of the process easier.

2) The officer may direct you to either hand the weapon to them (unusual) or direct you out of the vehicle so they can retrieve the weapon themselves (typical). Follow all instructions to the T.

3) If you're carrying concealed without a permit, expect to be shoved up against something. Learned that one the hard way when I first got here.

4) Keeping calm is of absolute necessity when dealing with law enforcement while in the possession (concealed, open carry or otherwise..) of weapons. You WILL run into a rookie who gets excited and starts pushing buttons, at some point. Just swallow it and keep calm.

Just a few observations coming from someone who has encountered all of the above situations and resolved them with no fuss, and not one single misdemeanor to speak for it.
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« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2006, 02:03:34 PM »
Hmmm... now i may consider the purchase of a used pistol.  However, Farslayer is right...  IF i did have some sort of deadly weapon at my disposal during the time of the incident, it's not like i would have shot and killed the guy for slapping, then sucker punching me.  But i'm sure he wouldn't have done anything else if he was staring down the barrel.  Not only that, but i would have been able to maybe hold him until the cops arrived.  

But yeah, i don't know... when things like that happen out of nowhere, and you're caught by suprise... what more can you do after being cheap-shotted... and wondering why the guy hit you, and is dancing around ready to box!  I feel i did something right, but it was never any of my business to begin with... one of my biggest problems.  Like i said, he may be crazy enough to come back and wait for me with a gun.  My life story...  which is why i wish i had some kind of weapon of self-defense... cuz there's only so much someone like me can do to defend my self... and a majority of the people around me are much bigger than me.
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« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2006, 02:05:51 PM »
Breaking the second rule of firearms. Never point them at anything you're not willing to destroy.

It's gone through everyone's head at one point, but it was explained well to me by an off-duty police officer at my work one night.

You pull that gun on someone, and he pulls his out and shoots you to death, and you enabled it. Maybe you shoot him first. Maybe you don't. Maybe you "choke at the moment of truth and you die! Then, you are in a world of shit!"
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« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2006, 02:19:03 PM »
True... and experience teaches.  But then again, i've been held at gunpoint more than once... but never held another at gunpoint.  

Whatever happened, happened.... and there is really nothing much else i can do besides hope that the police find the fucker... before he has another moment of insanity.  At least no one else was hurt from the incident.  And luckily i wasn't seriously injured.  It was a dead hit... but the blow only knocked me back... i was still standing, and felt fine... in fact no pain at all (must have been the adrenaline). I'm sure that may have suprised the guy as well, since i'm so small and took such a hit without even phasing me. But, I'd rather have the cut over my eye and a bruise from a cheap shot, than losing my life over a fuckin pizza.  Shit happens, and that's part of life.  And also goes to show what kind of low-life pieces of shit exist in this world, close and far.
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« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2006, 02:23:25 PM »
slightly off topic... --- I got suckerpunched last year by some A-hole that get this: cut ME off in a circle K. not the other way around. I tried to knock him down with two shots to the temple - one on each side and it only moved him one or two steps.. I know I hit hard too.. I finally hit him hard enough in the ribs to get him to stop advancing on me to take him to the ground and put my knee in his face until he screamed he was done.. - some people go off the handle for no reason, and you have to act or get f'ed up if you freeze.. cops came and let me go, cause everyone saw him start the fight. later He tried suing me!! cause I punctured his liver in the fight.
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« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2006, 02:45:58 PM »
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later He tried suing me!! cause I punctured his liver in the fight.


Damn...he's lucky he didn't bleed out.  Did you ever got to court?  (off topic)
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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2006, 02:50:32 PM »
no, never had to go to court, I got a cert. letter in the mail saying I had to cover his medical bills by some 3rd rate civil attourney; but he was the one who left the scene of a crime, and assaulted me. he didn't have a leg to stand on. no jury would ever pay him a dime for his stupidity.
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