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Offline XavierMace

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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2007, 09:34:54 AM »
Yeah, which was my guess based on the dates you listed.  

Here is the next question....  How many watts is your power supply?  Most OEM Power Supplies are only 250-300W, which isn't much for a new video card.  To make it worse though, from what I see Sony is using a non-standard power supply form factor meaning you can't just grab a replacement off the shelf.

You are really pushing the boundaries of your system here.  You aren't going to be able to get a large performance increase without having to worry about the power supply.
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2007, 09:08:13 AM »
Do I have to pop open the cover to see the Wattage?  Or anywhere else I can look?
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2007, 09:31:06 AM »
Yeah, pop open the cover and there will be a sticker on the side that should list the wattage.
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2007, 03:36:18 PM »
He is right about the Psupply's Not enough wattage your V card can actually Cook..

When getting a better P supply i would recommend a 550 watt and give your video card a completely separate cable .. Free of any branching off of any other items int he computer. reason is that video card takes power from your +5 volt rail and if that is below +5 volts then your card isnt goign to preform very well. Your fan on the card can go thus your VPU after that will cook.
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2007, 04:25:55 PM »
Actually, that depends on the card.  Some of the high-end AGP cards (IE X1950's) use a PCI-e power connector, which comes off a 12v rail (unless you are using a standard 4 pin splitter; not recommended).

Most of the time, the system will either reboot randomly or won't power on at all.  It's EXTREMELY unlikely (I would say borderline impossible) that it's only going to lose power to the fan since most of your peripherals are running off that rail.  If your +5v rail isn't supplying sufficient power your hard drives, cd/dvd drives, and fans will be losing power as well.  More over your drivers have temp warnings and most of the newer GPU have a core shutdown feature to prevent it from roasting.  nVidia got sued a while back because the  core shutdown never activated on a guys card and started a fire.  Don't recall the outcome of that.

That is why on newer power supplies the video card(s) have their own 12v rail.  Mine has quad 12v rails; 12v 24pin, 12v 4pin (P4), 2x 12v PCI-e.
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« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2007, 06:17:45 PM »
Well I am talking if he is using a AGP which still is a standard.. shitty I know but true.
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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2007, 07:24:27 PM »
Hence the reason I specified AGP.  While AGP is still a standard, it's a dead one.
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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2007, 10:39:11 PM »
If you guys are going to chat it up, I'm moving this to the off topic forum.
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« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2007, 10:50:53 PM »
Well, this still relates to Dave's request.  A new video card doesn't do him any good if his power supply won't run it.
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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2007, 11:51:17 PM »
IM running a standard 250w psu on my CPU and i have a AMD Athalon 64 3500+, along with a ATI Radeon 1600 Pro PCI-e, and all temps and processes run fine. ALthough a new psu would be a good choice it just depends on what you have sucking power, my friend had problems with his 1600 and his USB's didnt have enough power so it would shut down windows, it all depends..

And Xavier, I didn't know what card he had, so i was just throwing out ideas. I know my card wouldnt work just wanted to tell him i have it so if he ever got a new mobo or anything he would say, "hey that chris fellow has a video card he is selling"
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« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2007, 02:49:01 AM »
i have a radeon 9800 xt 256meg pulled from my alien ware system before upgrading to a xt850. It was only used about 6 months. Its 8x agp.

Make me an offer and its yours.
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« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2007, 03:59:01 PM »
Dave just make sure you have a free molex connector on your power supply that will reach the AGP slot.
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« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2007, 10:15:35 PM »
Just got back from Detroit, sorry.  I still really have no idea what to do.  I'll get back to this thread shortly, I'm too busy with planning my weekends for the next few months.
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« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2007, 11:08:19 PM »
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« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2007, 11:08:56 PM »
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