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Offline Ruiner

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« on: September 05, 2004, 11:13:47 AM »
BS Stoli.. get the michael moore crap out of your head.. the bin laden family was allowed to fly like everyone else AFTER the flight restrictions were lifted.  Do some more research.
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2004, 11:16:59 AM »
people should be careful. FBI is gunna get you [:P]. That really gets your mind going.
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2004, 01:39:16 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Riddle4x4</i>
<br />You guys need to see this video.  It really makes you think about what really happened to the Pentagon on 9/11.  http://ebaumsworld.com/pentagon.html#Main

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Sorry to rain on your parade, but you might want to take your tinfoil hat off.  Everything there is so absurd.  What happened to everyone on the flight?  Is the gov't holding them somewhere?!  ROFL...

Stoli - you need to take your tin foil hat off as well.  NO ONE flew until the gov't removed FAA restrictions:  NO ONE.  Not Bin Laden, not anyone from the family; NO ONE.  Your article said "within a week" which is correct.  Why don't you see how long FAA restrictions were in place.

Where's the "rolleyes" icon when I need it?
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2004, 01:45:29 PM »


Is that it?

If it was a missle, where are the passengers? Were they all just made up? What about the employees? But still, the fact that there are no wings, or any remains of aircraft is strange.
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2004, 01:59:17 PM »
Hey!  Those tin foil hats work!  Can you tell what I am thinking right now!!!  I didn't think so!
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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2004, 02:24:46 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by HavHav</i>
<br />But still, the fact that there are no wings, or any remains of aircraft is strange.
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There are plenty of parts that you can see - just not in the pictures they chose to show in that video or on the associated web sites.  There were engine parts and parts of the outside of the plane strewn across the lawn approaching the pentagon.  The rest burned up quickly in the fire.  See how hot it burns in there, and remember that it was so hot that firefighters weren't even able to approach the crash site for HOURS since it was so hot.
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2004, 02:37:26 PM »
the whole thing was a hoax and or know about from the beginning , created by our goverment , So they could inforce a bigger goverment and new agency to police us


shhh....there listening

anyway..

I Love my country and But fear my goverment
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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2004, 03:07:05 PM »
So let's assume for a moment that it was a missile or a commuter jet or a military jet, and not a 757, that hit the Pentagon.  Does it change anything? Nope.  All that matters is that innocent people died.  We should concentrate on making sure it doesn't happen again.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Paco</i>
<br />The rest burned up quickly in the fire.  See how hot it burns in there, and remember that it was so hot that firefighters weren't even able to approach the crash site for HOURS since it was so hot.
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All true.  Aluminum melts at approx. 1220 degrees F.  Jet fuel burns at approx. 1400-1500 degrees F (depending on pressure, oxygen availability, etc).
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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2004, 05:09:50 PM »
Well if it was all a cover up, and for some reason that plane did not crash into the Pentagon like they say.

Then it is proof that the Bible Code is a hoax too.
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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2004, 05:16:25 PM »
The gov't has lied to the public for years. Its a proven fact. I'm not saying that video is true, cause honestly I dont believe a missle hit the Pentagon. I'm saying question everything. Dont just take their word for it. In any accident/act of terrorism there are independent studies. Some of which prove gov't studies completely wrong in many ways. We should listen to every piece of info there is on the subject, instead of brushing it off as "tin foil hat" thinking like you just did Paco. We should look for the truth, rather then accept what is fed to us like children. Say what you want, I'm done with this topic...
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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2004, 05:48:16 PM »
Hmm...take the Goverments word for it...or Ebaums world? 99% of this crap is just made up w/ nothing to back it up. Do your own research before you dive in and believe what ever you read...especially on the internet.
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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2004, 07:06:09 PM »
Ever heard of Occam's Razor?  In its simplest form, Occam's razor states that explanations should never multiply causes without necessity. When two explanations are offered for a phenomenon, the simplest full explanation is preferable. If a charred tree is on the ground, it could be because of a lightning strike or because of a secret government weapons program. The simplest explanation that is sufficient is the logical one, according to Occam's razor, and there was a lightning strike.

The "missile hit the pentagon" crap is just that:  crap.
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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2004, 07:14:50 PM »
That and I am really from Mars, research that[;)]
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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2004, 07:55:03 PM »
Mystery solved: http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm
It explains pretty much everything that was in that video.
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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2004, 08:39:42 PM »
Yeah, this one is a hoax, but it is right not to trust the government.  They lie a LOT.

Example: TWA Flight 800 was shot down with a man portable SAM.  The evidence and data for it is overwhelming, including more than 105 eye witnesses, at least one of whom was a pilot in Gulf War I and had seen night SAM launches.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCH ... A/twa.html
http://www.twa800.com/index.htm

The reason this was suppressed?  To prevent the destruction of the US airline industry since there is no way to defend against MANPADS at every airport and even on plane countermeasures do not work all the time.

So, don't believe the government.  Always question them.  I don't mean that they will ALWAYS lie, but they often will if they have a good reason.
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