[TriggerHappy]

Man why cant we just drop a few A-bombs on that god forsaken country turn the desert to glass and come back in forty years and plant an american flag geez i hate politics

[TriggerHappy]

Greg question for ya bud if you are so sick of the media replaying those tapes why would you put a link to it in your thread i mean doesn't that make you no better than them...

[yellowmonkey]

I wish someone would find and destroy all the places that originally broadcast this stuff. Al-Jazeera or whatever needs to be PERMANENTLY shut down.
Hope the guy's family is ok.

[TriggerHappy]

yes my deepest condolences to his family. what i wouldn't give to be in iraq right now with a small group of vigilantes then we could kidnap some of there ppl and tell them that if our hostages aren't released that we will wrap them in hogs flesh and put bacon in thier mouths before we kill them so they cannot pass over to thier "heaven"

[TriggerHappy]

sometimes mental warfare is better than conventional

[KamikazeSM]

Sometimes editing posts is better than posting a new reply []

But seriously, it a problem and will likely go on as long they can get away with it.  As we are a country with a higher moral standard, they know we won't stoop to a level that would really scare them.  But, I bet you, if we turned the tables and hunted down every member of the families of the kidnappers/beheaders and the suicide bombers and used some pork liberally in killing the families, the perpetrators would learn really quick.  Imagine the media backlash though...

What i wanna know is why we can't find the orchestrators of these things?  Is our intelligence that bad or is it just too dangerous to try to get any real info?

[Greg]

I put a link so you could read the article. I'm not saying that we should put our heads in the sand, but I just don't think they need to rebroadcast the videos that get released by these f***ers.

[PyroManiac]

you kno as much as i hate them and want them to die a very painful death (im talkin about the iraqis here) i can kinda see where they're comming from. they think we are trying to change them into something they dont want to be and maybe we are. maybe that country worked better as a dictatorship. i mean my parents dont like the way i dress and talk and they keep trying to change me i resent them for it but i dont behead them....

[yellowmonkey]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by KamikazeSM</i>
<br />Sometimes editing posts is better than posting a new reply []

But seriously, it a problem and will likely go on as long they can get away with it.  As we are a country with a higher moral standard, they know we won't stoop to a level that would really scare them.  But, I bet you, if we turned the tables and hunted down every member of the families of the kidnappers/beheaders and the suicide bombers and used some pork liberally in killing the families, the perpetrators would learn really quick.  Imagine the media backlash though...

What i wanna know is why we can't find the orchestrators of these things?  Is our intelligence that bad or is it just too dangerous to try to get any real info?
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From what I have heard, much of the intelligence that we have is from turn-coats. I think, first of all, there are too many individual militant islamic cells in Iraq, too independent from eachother, too impulsive, and oppertunistic to gather individual intelligence on.
Second, you have to consider that these militants go through years of training and indoctrination... you try getting an operative inside of that.

[Raith]

I think everybody SHOULD see this.

[yellowmonkey]

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<br />I think everybody SHOULD see this.
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I think if you are opposed to the war in Iraq, you should see this video as evidence of why we are there.
Personally, everytime I see something like that, it makes me extremely angry at a lot of people. I can't stand to see such things done, and then see that there are people who just don't care or don't understand that we have to end this kind of thing. It makes me even angrier at the people who do it and the people who perpetuate the religion of Islam.

I still hope that Islamic media sources that perpetuate this kind of material are destroyed.

[Ryandetailer]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by PyroManiac</i>
<br />i can kinda see where they're comming from. they think we are trying to change them into something they dont want to be and maybe we are. maybe that country worked better as a dictatorship. i mean my parents dont like the way i dress and talk and they keep trying to change me i resent them for it but i dont behead them....
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"Jihad and Unification, which claims loyalty to al-Zarqawi, has taken responsibility for beheading U.S. businessman Nicholas Berg, South Korean translator Kim Sun-il and a Bulgarian hostage in Iraq."

These people that do this kinda thing are not fighting for there sovereignty, as you kind of allude to. They are radical morally corrupt groups of wakos. As noted in the above quote, these groups have been responsible for most if not all of these sick-offences. The Iraqis like the US, the dictatorship groups loved Sadam, they got authority from him. So of course they fight us, they just lost there voice and power.

Sick sick people. They will get their's in the end. I just hope the people get a clue(and it looks like they are starting to) and work with us, because once we leave who will protect them? Certainly not the UN nor it's buddies.

[heroicfighter199]

The whole Islam religion is set up that way to make "holy war" on everyone who does not beleive their religion, and also in islam if you kill an infadel you cannot go to the same place they are going (they think hell) so they will go to heaven if they kill a infadel. the whole religion is war practically, i mean look at the che-chen muslims they killed all those innocent school children

[Greg]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by heroicfighter199</i>
<br />The whole Islam religion is set up that way to make "holy war" on everyone who does not beleive their religion, and also in islam if you kill an infadel you cannot go to the same place they are going (they think hell) so they will go to heaven if they kill a infadel. the whole religion is war practically, i mean look at the che-chen muslims they killed all those innocent school children
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That is a very ignorant statement. The religion is no worse than christianity. There have been plenty of christians throughout history that have been just as crazy as these bastards. This has nothing to do with Islam. It has everything to do with people who hate the US and recruit their "soldiers" via horrible misinterpretations of their own religion. Learn something about Islam before you make a comment like this one.

People that believe this kind of crap are part of the whole problem. [!]

[leakingpen]

heroic, as is judaism, which most christians practice more than they do christianity.  see psalms 183 (may have the number wrong.  it is the psalm that begins, by the rivers of babylon)

the average iraqi is not part of this.  even the iraqi freedom fighters (for that is what many of them ARE) are not part of this, it is foreign groups that have poured across the iraqi border in the wake of the loss of security there, and have their own reasons for attacking americans (mostly our ties and troops in saudi arabia)