Airsoft Arizona
Arizona Game Discussions => General Airsoft Game Discussion => Topic started by: Airsofter1 on July 27, 2005, 08:47:28 PM
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For those that don't know, this game is put on by the same guy that does Op: Lion Claws series. Arizona fielded almost a whole platoon at this past LC4.
This event is going to be held at an unbelievalbe MOUT training facility used by the US Army at Ft. Knox, KY.
I am planning on attending. I will be close by, er, well closer than AZ is anyway... to Ft Knox, KY around that time of September. I have already mentioned it to a few here, but I wanted to throw this out there and see who else would be interested and able to go. Show of hands? Go to www.oplionclaws.com (http://www.oplionclaws.com) for more info.
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Here is a mouth watering link for those of you that don't read all of John Lu's many email announcements...
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/present ... clude.html (http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/presents/shows/urban.combat/interactive/interactive/frameset.exclude.html)
And a fun pic [smilie=armata_pdt_22.gif]
(http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/4144/ftknoxmout6hh.jpg)
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I'll be in Commiefornia with the kiddies at the time. Represent us well, Mikey!
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Why must you torture me? You know I'll be gone!!! Its okay, I get to play military too, just mine isn't as fun.
(What the hell? Every time there is an urban op, my fantasy airsoft game, I can never go. I hate you guys.
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Why must you torture me? You know I'll be gone!!! Its okay, I get to play military too, just mine isn't as fun.
(What the hell? Every time there is an urban op, my fantasy airsoft game, I can never go. I hate you guys.
You'll get your share of MOUT toward the end of BCT, bro. Benning has a decent MOUT facility as well.
Now, the question is whether or not I want to throw down the ginormous ammount of cash to go to this sweet game!
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I'll be goin, for shizzle.
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Hmmm... I've been thinking about going for a while. It looks like my schedule might be open enough to go... So I'm a definite maybe. :D
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Any details on when registration opens or the cost of the event? I'm interested, but I need more details to determine if going is a possibility.
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If you really think you can go, start looking for tickets now. They will only get more expensive the longer you wait. Looks like Hector will be in the neighborhood that time of year also. We will both be driving from seperate "undisclosed locations".
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Any details on when registration opens or the cost of the event? I'm interested, but I need more details to determine if going is a possibility.
I have no idea on when registration will open up or the cost it will be. But I would imagine the cost will be clsoe to what we paid for Lion Claws.
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School just started, so it might be a pain, and that's not a long time to plan, in my opinion. Specially, for probly needing to fly out there. I need moneys!!
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Im pretty interested in this... I hope I can get school and work off for it. Im sure I can get work off with no problem. School is the hard part.
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I'll be there 8)
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I need moneys!!
Sell some gear, dude.
Here's the deal - I thought about it and decided this is too cool to miss. I need to sell some stuff, but as long as I don't have anything scheduled for that weekend already (ie something for Uncle Sugar), I'll be linking up with my MF/AA bros on the east coast and we can roll together.
Mike, Hector, whattya say?
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I need moneys!!
Sell some gear, dude.
Here's the deal - I thought about it and decided this is too cool to miss. I need to sell some stuff, but as long as I don't have anything scheduled for that weekend already (ie something for Uncle Sugar), I'll be linking up with my MF/AA bros on the east coast and we can roll together.
Mike, Hector, whattya say?
Not to get off topic, but I told Beth to NOT send me the Range Vest, and she accidentally did.. charged for it too. That makes 5 fucking rigs, 6 in a month. I might sell one or two things, just for this. :oops: :roll:
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Does anyone know the cost, less travel expenses?
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Does anyone know the cost, less travel expenses?
I'm going out on a limb here to say that, if they do indeed charge similarly to past Best of USA Marketing events, it will be in the 120-130 range. Less for BofUSA event "veterans."
Nate, you actually bought one of those Range Vests? :P
Either way, it's crye, so it will sell. Put it on LF and prepare for a torrent of PMs!
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Ya, Nate, sell whichever set of MC bdu's you don't like as much and all but one or two of your expensive rigs. (I say expensive to specifically not include the ones you made. You probably put too much work into those to sell them.) After selling all of the stuff that you aren't going to be using anymore, you'd be able to fly most of AA to Irene first class! :lol:
I seriously would like to go, but my schedule is currently up in the air. I'm pretty sure that I will be free to do something like this in Sept, though.
Has anyone looked at tickets yet? SWA looks like it will be about $250 round trip if booked soon.
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Ya, Nate, sell whichever set of MC bdu's you don't like as much and all but one or two of your expensive rigs. (I say expensive to specifically not include the ones you made. You probably put too much work into those to sell them.) After selling all of the stuff that you aren't going to be using anymore, you'd be able to fly most of AA to Irene first class! :lol:
I seriously would like to go, but my schedule is currently up in the air. I'm pretty sure that I will be free to do something like this in Sept, though.
Has anyone looked at tickets yet? SWA looks like it will be about $250 round trip if booked soon.
Or just me on some exotic airplane with plenty of naked chicks.
And damnit, that range vest is kickass, christian. I'm gonna wear it once or twice at the 30th. It's got everything you need for minor use. Hydra pack, side webbing, all of it.. too bad they sold it to me when I said not to.
But.. it works for me. I'll live!
I might sell the satch, Greg! And.. I'm keeping both of the bdu sets. Ones got the feild top, ones got the combat top.. works fer meh! Should I post pics.. they're just about here..
Back on topic, what team are you guys intending to be on? Delta, or Charlie?
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Okay, I think I'm probably in.
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i have a question if i decided to go are we going to be traveling by group or individuals. i rather travel by group since im a newb. i would probably get lost and very confused
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If you're new to airsoft, or traveling.. take a year to learn the sport. I took a year, I skipped LC3.
And, cancel everything I said. I mean.. I'd fly there, meet who at the aiport? I can't get a car.. since I'm not 21, I wouldn't know where to go, etc. I'd be so lost. Money wouldn't be the issue.. the plane ticket there and back would do just fine, but everything else, I'd screw up on, and end up at like.. Ny, Ny.
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If you're new to airsoft, or traveling.. take a year to learn the sport. I took a year, I skipped LC3.
And, cancel everything I said. I mean.. I'd fly there, meet who at the aiport? I can't get a car.. since I'm not 21, I wouldn't know where to go, etc. I'd be so lost. Money wouldn't be the issue.. the plane ticket there and back would do just fine, but everything else, I'd screw up on, and end up at like.. Ny, Ny.
That goes for me too.....
I want to go to this pretty bad... any way some of us can go together?
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I can rent a car at my age since I'm in the military, but I will not travel with more than 1 other person.
I think I know who that person will be.
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If I can get the time off I would very much like to attend this..fo' shizzle.
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How about renting a mini van? 27 hours, 14 minutes Total Est. Distance: 1868.97 miles If we get 4 guys your looking at 360-400 dollars in gas
plus another $325-375 for suv/mini van
So 4 guys your still talking 200 bux apiece, but you dont have to rent a car when we get there!
We wont have to ship our gear
Only thing is the 27 hour drive and with stops your talking 30-32 hours on the road
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but if you take turns driving, you wouldnt have to stop and rest...sleep in the van. Just stop to clean up..and eat.
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I would be down for a road trip but there way too many variable right now to fly!
So if you got 400-500 bux for everything lets get it started
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but if you take turns driving, you wouldnt have to stop and rest...sleep in the van. Just stop to clean up..and eat.
Piss breaks,food stops and fuel ups
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An idea if you wish an RV. No stopping just only for gas and the dump station. Thats an idea that my family has used in the past. The RV has been across the us twice over the time we've had it. So its an idea.
6 people is the total cap for traveling in a 24ft class C. gas will be a pain, propane, heading to dump station. I have an RV in the yard, but its too large for me to move around the house.
1992 ford e-350, class C 24ft, Tioga montara special. last used 8 months ago.
EDit . with 6 people thats near 1300 for gas, food, supplies. and a lot of humanwaste.
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So far its looking like 6 of us for sure and about 6 more "maybe" AZ'ns. John Lu is letting vet players register early to guarantee their spots.
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I`m down as long as I can keep it under 5 bills
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Thats shouldn't be a problem Dave. If your planning on flying out there you might be able to find tickets for around $200-250. I am planning on shipping my airsoft guns to where I will be at the time and drive with them from there. Call me and we can talk some more about this.
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Dave, I'd be up for that car pool.
SHOTGUN!
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im up for the carpool also
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For the really cheap-minded, there's always Greyhound, get an Ameripass and brush up on your spanish, to boot.
Or... Ever hear of auto driveaway? You deliver a car/truck to the part of the country you wish to go. Might even have it for the few days you're at the field.
Worth a shot.
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You guys DO realize that the drive will take days.
It's kind of on the other side of the country.
I'm flying.
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For the really cheap-minded, there's always Greyhound, get an Ameripass and brush up on your spanish, to boot.
Or... Ever hear of auto driveaway? You deliver a car/truck to the part of the country you wish to go. Might even have it for the few days you're at the field.
Worth a shot.
ameripass? spanish? what the heck. i still want to carpool hey ill fly but im afraid to travel alone? maybe somone will fly with me ( looks around) come on guys or somone could meet me there like in some place or somewhere
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hey ill fly but im afraid to travel alone? maybe somone will fly with me ( looks around) come on guys or somone could meet me there like in some place or somewhere
Dude, you're 18. Time to join the Mile High club.
Flying alone is fun.
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Fly/drive what the hell just get there and kick ASS.
driveing to KY from AZ takes about 5 to 7 days.
the Flight time is about 7 to 8 hrs.
hmm cramped plane with small seating/speed or cramped car with small seating/group of gunho airsofters/with own food&ways to cook it.hence RV / 5th wheel.
romes_empire you a bit worried about flying solo, grab a map learn the area. dude no parents/evil siblings. but few cranky people on the plane.
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Fly/drive what the hell just get there and kick ASS.
driveing to KY from AZ takes about 5 to 7 days.
the Flight time is about 7 to 8 hrs.
hmm cramped plane with small seating/speed or cramped car with small seating/group of gunho airsofters/with own food&ways to cook it.hence RV / 5th wheel.
romes_empire you a bit worried about flying solo, grab a map learn the area. dude no parents/evil siblings. but few cranky people on the plane.
hey your right. you know what im gonna do im going to fly over there buy a map ask any guy who passes by and ask them where that base is and ill be there in a jiffy ill take a cab or whatever can get me there from the city. also how do we take our weapons and gear on the plane is that legal. and seconde i heard somone talking about shipping them there but where do we ship them too can somone tell me how to get my weapons and gear over there
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Man, I wish I could go to this. But with school and everything (and I have a tough schedule this semester) I just don't know. Since I just started really getting into airsoft this summer, I think I'll wait it out until LC5.
I'll be waiting for some pictures from the OP though.
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Not this year, maybe next. I have 19 units starting in late august.
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if you drive straight through it will take 27 hours thats ONE whole day and 3 hours
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Fly/drive what the hell just get there and kick ASS.
driveing to KY from AZ takes about 5 to 7 days.
the Flight time is about 7 to 8 hrs.
hmm cramped plane with small seating/speed or cramped car with small seating/group of gunho airsofters/with own food&ways to cook it.hence RV / 5th wheel.
romes_empire you a bit worried about flying solo, grab a map learn the area. dude no parents/evil siblings. but few cranky people on the plane.
5to7 days what speeds are you driving at. if you keep going non stop except for bathroom or some food. like the other guys said it shoud take you 27-35 hours max
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Not this year, maybe next. I have 19 units starting in late august.
:shock:
Good luck with that, Jeff! I'm sure it depends on the classes you take, but I had my hands full with 16 credits when I was in college. Throw a job on top, and you got yourself very, VERY little time for fun stuff. It's fun, though. I really can't wait to get back to school.
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Lol. thanks Romes_empire.
I meant driveing an RV, its carrying more weight,fuels, that stuff. top speed without cross wind, 65 to 75mph. and semis pushing ya around.
but on the over hand the others are talking about driveing at nearly 90+mph. good luck on the fuel effincent car, hehe. not a hybrid clocked at 45mpg, hence my father owns one. or my cruiser with nice ass seats with 26mpg. or some other car or truck i dont know about with better gas mileage.
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What even going 45 max travel time should be 2 days. Forget nice food just bring MRE's
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No that 27-35 hours is at 65 mph
1868/65= 28.8 hours
60mph would be 31 hours
50mph would be 37 hours
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Okay ladies, this is who has posted here or told me they intend to go to this event:
Me - vet
Raith - vet
Kurn - vet
Ganef - vet
azsarge - vet
Raven1 - vet
Gixser13 - vet
WickedMpact - vet
Studdermonkey - vet
romes-empire - new
AA Mike - new
This is jus a list of who want to go. Many of us still need to figure out if we can go. I am 100% sure I am going though.
I would like to get as many of us pre-registered as a team, so if you are a vet of any of the past LC series games let me know. Public registration opens in a couple of weeks I believe and I would like to get this in before then.
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Okay ladies, this is who has posted here or told me they intend to go to this event:
Me - vet
Raith - vet
Kurn - vet
Ganef - vet
azsarge - vet
Raven1 - vet
Gixser13 - vet
WickedMpact - vet
Studdermonkey - vet
romes-empire - new
AA Mike - new
This is jus a list of who want to go. Many of us still need to figure out if we can go. I am 100% sure I am going though.
I would like to get as many of us pre-registered as a team, so if you are a vet of any of the past LC series games let me know. Public registration opens in a couple of weeks I believe and I would like to get this in before then.
GRRRRRR you guys are killing me!!!!!!
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Suck to be you doesn't it! [smilie=armata_pdt_28.gif]
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Don't forget my dipshit of a brother :-P
Although he doesn't have an AEG...
And we can't be in the same car. I'll try to get the suburban (7 EXTRA people) for a ride.
But I won't be driving most of the time, I'll leave that to someone that knows how.
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I'm definitely in as long as other people from here end up going. I wouldn't wanna be there among strangers. Someone just let me know so I can set the wheels a-turnin'. Someone wanna do a little math and figure out what the gas would be?
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I wouldnt go with a group larger then 6
Gas all depend on how many and what your driving
its safe to say 200 bux per person if four go
and 150 if 6 go
your talking 1890 one way so round trip 3780
if you drive something that gives you 20 MPG
thats 472 dollars for gas
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Ok, so in the suburban.. theres 5+ gear!
I'm guessing we're camping out, etc? Basically.. bring the same crud you'd bring to LC4?
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Im thinking about this.........GRRRRR!!!!!!!
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well put me down for Carpooling
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No that 27-35 hours is at 65 mph
1868/65= 28.8 hours
60mph would be 31 hours
50mph would be 37 hours
That is a constant 65mph average, I know that you can not average a constant 65mph. I would definately figure on 2 days at least for travel time with the numbers provided. There are many things that can easily eat up time, that can be forseen and unforseen. Better to have a bit of a safety or fudge factor.
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guys, Southwest is running $270 roundtrip.... how much is it to drive per person???
And honestly, if you are going to ride take the Dog (Greyhound).. you haven't lived until you cross country on the F'ing Bus!
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Only problem with flying is ground transport + gears.
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TSA says you can fly with airsoft. The only thing not allowed is green gas. Ft. Knox is 30 minutes from Louisville KY airport and there is a shuttle that runs right to post.
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Really? Link to shuttle?
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I'll research it but I rode it a few times... more to come
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Here is one service flat fee for up to 4 = $10 each
http://www.greentaxicab.com/airport_taxi_services.html (http://www.greentaxicab.com/airport_taxi_services.html)
I have a friend who lives there - I'll have them look into the base shuttle. But $10 per person isn't bad either.
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Anyone know how much entry is going to cost and are people under 18 allowed a buddy and I are thinking about flying out.
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I think it's like 120-150, and I know at LC you have to have a sponsor if you are under eighteen, I believe.
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Anyone know how much entry is going to cost and are people under 18 allowed a buddy and I are thinking about flying out.
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You need to be 18 for this. You need to have a parental release form signed by someone attending this event and your parents. This form needs to be notorized and brought with you to the event. The Op attendee that signs this form will be taking responisblity for you at the event. That being said I would be very unlikely to sign off for someone that I only know on the forums.
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Ok... That solves that problem, I totally agree with your position on it though.
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im flying there and since doc said tsa allows you to take your airsoft guns. ill be alright ill just buy the gas at the event. they are going to be selling supplys right?
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Make sure you check with your airline as well as TSA before you go. There is a process to follow - basically the same thing as if you were travelling with real steel....
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I have started a private Op: Irene discussion forum. Everyone that is interested in going should have access to. If I missed you just click the "Teams/Groups" link above and request to be added.
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Ok... One last question, Does the sponsor need to be playing in the event becasue one of our parents would 100% be there. So my Question is could the parent Sponsor/Sign off for us, or does the sponsor need to be participating? (If the child whos parents who are not attending just sign over power of attorney)
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If the parent is going to be there, they have to be playing. No friends or family.
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I believe the rules and waiver are now posted at www.oplionclaws.com (http://www.oplionclaws.com) Reg is only open to vets at the moment. PM airsofter1 (Mike) for further.
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Oh... :oops:
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If the parent is going to be there, they have to be playing. No friends or family.
Vince is correct. No spectators allowed - friends and family included. This is a very serious mil-sim event, not just another run n' gun weekend game. I am not trying to discourage you Cochise116, just trying to give you an idea as to the scale of this event.
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Hey its alright I understand.
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Hey its alright I understand.
Thanks for being so understanding. Operations like this are usualy an 18+ thing. I'm sure, many people wish it was 21+.
But.. who wants 16 year olds runnin' and gunnin? Eww.. :P
Just Kiddin'
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There was a problem with the private forum allowing access yesterday, but its all fixed now. As soon as I get home I will post some details about getting us registered together and stuff.
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yeah yeah you just dont want me to go
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Anyone else flying? I am leaving Friday Southwest 1838 non-stop to Louisville (3:15 p arrival) and back home sunday leaving around 9pm.
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Have Fun guys Ive decided I wont be able to make it. Its just to hard being under 18 and going half way across the country not being able to get a car,sponsor,hotel. Give em' hell from AZ. But Ill be at LC:V thats for damn sure!
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Anyone else flying? I am leaving Friday Southwest 1838 non-stop to Louisville (3:15 p arrival) and back home sunday leaving around 9pm.
how much are you paying?