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Title: Pat Tillman Video
Post by: azsarge on April 26, 2005, 11:09:00 AM: This was posted on LF, but I think everyone should see it.
http://www.chrisvalentines.com/projects/ptpage.html
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Post by: busta_cap on April 26, 2005, 11:27:57 AM: How can one say how they feel after seeing a video like that. I overheard about doing something for Pat at the game the other day, anyone that could fill me in, please do.
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Post by: delta_echo on April 26, 2005, 11:46:22 AM: Very, VERY well done. Hooah to Pat and all the others over there.
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Post by: chainsaw on April 26, 2005, 03:31:49 PM: Yeah nice movie thanks christian a bit sad though.
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Post by: Raven1 on April 27, 2005, 03:06:04 PM: I think BCO should have a new slogan for this year at LCIV.

"Do it Like Pat!"

Words can not express and deeds somehow fall short when compared to the sacrifices that are being made by the men and women who defend our way of life. Who have chosen to do so willingly and put themselves in harms way on our behalf.

Thanks to All who insure my freedom!

-Raven1
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Post by: gixser13 on April 27, 2005, 04:03:28 PM: Very well done, I had the Honor of watching Pat play football in person both at ASU and the Cards
He Is 100% Hero in my book, Not for what he did in combat, BUT for what he gave up for AMERICA
and trust me folks its was No cake walk for him in the ARMY. PAT was Not givin any star treatment If anything they push him harder because they thought he was a glory seeker..........(I have a few friends that are Rangers)
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Post by: KenCasper on April 27, 2005, 08:35:21 PM: :cry: Damn Fine Video, and brings it into perspective...

That said, one of the greatest things is the fact he truely DID NOT seem to be glory seeking, he did his interviews to announce his decision to quit pro football then pretty much dissapeared into the big green machine. For that I respect him as a fellow soldier, for the amount of money, and personal stardom he gave up I respect him as a true patriot.

As Others have said, Thanks for the link Christian!
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Post by: Victor3 on April 28, 2005, 02:04:22 PM: In response to Busta's question about what he heard, Last year for LCIII we got #40 patches made up to wear in honor of Pat and the other fallen Rangers. I know I'll be wearing mine again this year. My suggestion is that since we all got 2 last year, anyone that would be willing to give up or loan their extra to someone that is going but doesn't have one would allow us all to wear one for the OP. HOO AH!!
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Post by: gixser13 on April 28, 2005, 02:45:47 PM: YES....I need one
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Post by: busta_cap on April 28, 2005, 02:49:21 PM: Oh, thanks for filling me in Ed, I appreciate it.
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Post by: Victor3 on April 28, 2005, 05:16:35 PM: Just got to watch it. All I can say is wow! Barkley was right....he's no role model........Pat Tillman.........now there's a role model, and a hero!
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Post by: azsarge on April 28, 2005, 05:50:37 PM: If someone wants my patches you can have them.

I'll be remembering Pat in another way.
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Post by: Harley on April 29, 2005, 07:22:04 AM: Anybody bother to go to the "Pat Tillman Run" last week at ASU???
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Post by: Greg on April 29, 2005, 08:04:35 AM: Quote from: "Harley"
Anybody bother to go to the "Pat Tillman Run" last week at ASU???

My dad and I were planning on doing the triathlon (http://www.redrockco.com/tillmantriathlon.htm), but now neither of us can push ourselves to do the swim... (I don't like swimming that much and my dad is starting to feel the same way)
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Post by: Harley on April 29, 2005, 08:21:10 AM: Quote from: "USMC-Greg"
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Anybody bother to go to the "Pat Tillman Run" last week at ASU???

My dad and I were planning on doing the triathlon (http://www.redrockco.com/tillmantriathlon.htm), but now neither of us can push ourselves to do the swim... (I don't like swimming that much and my dad is starting to feel the same way)

A Marine that doesn't like water.... that's funny Greg.
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Post by: Greg on April 29, 2005, 09:31:19 AM: Quote from: "Harley"
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Anybody bother to go to the "Pat Tillman Run" last week at ASU???

My dad and I were planning on doing the triathlon (http://www.redrockco.com/tillmantriathlon.htm), but now neither of us can push ourselves to do the swim... (I don't like swimming that much and my dad is starting to feel the same way)

A Marine that doesn't like water.... that's funny Greg.

:lol:

I guess you got me there... but I think it has a bit more to do with exactly which water it is... Tempe lake [smilie=armata_pdt_32.gif]

I'm actually a pretty strong swimmer and my dad has been into triathlons for a while. I just hate recreational swimming. It's even more boring than a treadmill for me.

That is a very well done video, btw.
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Post by: Victor3 on April 29, 2005, 02:22:57 PM: OF course the Marines don't like water....thats what we were for....to get them to da beach!!
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Post by: leadmagnet on April 29, 2005, 05:41:13 PM: When I did Coronado I saw plenty of Marine recon right along with the seals.

Of course I suspect the training has changed a lot since then.

Probably have the squids in one place and the Marines in another.

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Post by: woody on April 30, 2005, 05:29:07 PM: Pretty thoughtful video; more than a hero, for sure. Let's make sure everyone has a patch.
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Post by: busta_cap on April 30, 2005, 05:30:07 PM: I need a patch, can anyone give me thiers?
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Post by: azsarge on May 01, 2005, 07:45:56 PM: Quote from: "busta_cap"
I need a patch, can anyone give me thiers?

You can have mine.

I don't need a patch on my shoulder to remember a fallen soldier.
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Post by: leadmagnet on May 01, 2005, 08:57:14 PM: Honestly? Knowing what I know now, I would have taken the football career.

Goodnight Smedly Butler, where ever you are.

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Post by: gixser13 on May 01, 2005, 09:14:46 PM: NO MATTER HOW GREAT A PERSON IS OR HOW MUCH TRAINING YOU HAVE, YOUR STILL IN THE HANDS OF THE PERSON WHO HANDS DOWN THE ORDERS,
OUR LEADERS MAKE SOME DUMB AND SENSELESS MISTAKES
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Post by: azsarge on May 02, 2005, 10:48:09 AM: Quote from: "gixser13"
NO MATTER HOW GREAT A PERSON IS OR HOW MUCH TRAINING YOU HAVE, YOUR STILL IN THE HANDS OF THE PERSON WHO HANDS DOWN THE ORDERS,
OUR LEADERS MAKE SOME DUMB AND SENSELESS MISTAKES

Yes, and the fact that our young soldiers still follow them is a testament to thier loyalty and sense of duty.
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Post by: leadmagnet on May 02, 2005, 08:19:05 PM: Quote from: "azsarge"
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NO MATTER HOW GREAT A PERSON IS OR HOW MUCH TRAINING YOU HAVE, YOUR STILL IN THE HANDS OF THE PERSON WHO HANDS DOWN THE ORDERS,
OUR LEADERS MAKE SOME DUMB AND SENSELESS MISTAKES

Yes, and the fact that our young soldiers still follow them is a testament to thier loyalty and sense of duty.

I'm not quite sure why gix is yelling, but yeah, when in the military you must follow orders whether you agree with them or not. My understanding is that Tillman was in a position to make a choice without being in violation of the law or an order.

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Post by: Surplus man on May 04, 2005, 09:40:32 PM: mixed feelings, one side of me says hero the other says not fair. i applaude our soldiers and what they are doing, but some things just dont add up in my book.a big shot footballer gets killed and he gets all the attention. soldiers with families and a lot more important things than just fame and money die and they get a tiny spot on "fallen heros" on channel 13 news at 10, then are never seen again. pat till men gets killed and loses a foot ball contract (45 minut news segment on his heroism) sgt joe smith gets killed and loses a wife and five children ( 5 seconds of "fallen heroes") pat tillmen gets killed by friendlies and suddenly hes a hero? other people get killed in car bombs and by enemy fire and they just get 5 seconds. im not discrediting pats service, or down playing his death. but when the media moans and cries over one footballer when 10 others get killed in a worse fashion by the enemy and its barely mentioned, it makes me mad. all soldiers deserve to be hailed as heros but it just seems because someone was big in sports the media thinks there more important than ever other american casualties.
my opinon isnt the nicest and i know some of you will be thouroughly pissed at me. but its how i see it and thats all.
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Post by: stoneaglewolf on May 04, 2005, 10:35:09 PM: Quote from: "Surplus man"
mixed feelings, one side of me says hero the other says not fair. i applaude our soldiers and what they are doing, but some things just dont add up in my book.a big shot footballer gets killed and he gets all the attention. ... all soldiers deserve to be hailed as heros but it just seems because someone was big in sports the media thinks there more important than ever other american casualties.
my opinon isnt the nicest and i know some of you will be thouroughly pissed at me. but its how i see it and thats all.

You know I wish I could be mad at that post... However, if our media is a true reflection of our society then we suffer our own ignorance. Yet, I am happy in the fact that the media does not reflect my morals, desires, or responsibilities in life, and therefore must agree.

But sometimes it takes one known man to bridge the gap of ignorance to hear the hundreds of silent heros. If thats what it takes then so be it.
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Post by: Harley on May 05, 2005, 06:24:30 AM: Quote from: "Surplus man"
mixed feelings, one side of me says hero the other says not fair. i applaude our soldiers and what they are doing, but some things just dont add up in my book.a big shot footballer gets killed and he gets all the attention. soldiers with families and a lot more important things than just fame and money die and they get a tiny spot on "fallen heros" on channel 13 news at 10, then are never seen again. pat till men gets killed and loses a foot ball contract (45 minut news segment on his heroism) sgt joe smith gets killed and loses a wife and five children ( 5 seconds of "fallen heroes") pat tillmen gets killed by friendlies and suddenly hes a hero? other people get killed in car bombs and by enemy fire and they just get 5 seconds. im not discrediting pats service, or down playing his death. but when the media moans and cries over one footballer when 10 others get killed in a worse fashion by the enemy and its barely mentioned, it makes me mad. all soldiers deserve to be hailed as heros but it just seems because someone was big in sports the media thinks there more important than ever other american casualties.
my opinon isnt the nicest and i know some of you will be thouroughly pissed at me. but its how i see it and thats all.

It's not that Pat did anything more than any other soldier did... what it's about is the fact that he gave up a multi million dollar contract and enlisted in the army. Sh|t he's a college grad, he could have been an officer and had a command as well. The point here is that he gave up what so many "pro sports types" take for granted. That's why he's my hero, not because he was a soldier and was killed, but because he gave up the material bullshit and did what was right.

God bless all our troops!
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Post by: leadmagnet on May 05, 2005, 08:07:48 AM: The devotion to duty over money is certainly an admirable trait worthy of emulation.

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Post by: DUDE on September 04, 2005, 04:45:37 PM: Patt tillman is a grade A hero in my book i mean he gave up a multi million dollar contract to go fight over seas for our nation. man it just makes you think you know.
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Post by: leadmagnet on September 05, 2005, 08:34:13 PM: In retrospect tough, he should have taken the money.

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Post by: woody on September 06, 2005, 10:12:46 AM: Quote from: "leadmagnet"
In retrospect tough, he should have taken the money.

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Now there's the start of a raucous debate.....
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Post by: leadmagnet on September 25, 2005, 09:37:50 PM: Any of you guys catch this one...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... =printable (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/09/25/MNGD7ETMNM1.DTL&type=printable)

The more I hear about Pat, the bigger fan of his I am. I might not be as big a Chomsky fan as he was, but I think I would have really enjoyed talking to this guy (Pat).

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