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Airsoft Hardware => AEG's => Topic started by: FarFromEinstein on June 03, 2005, 01:18:54 AM

Title: My new G&G m4
Post by: FarFromEinstein on June 03, 2005, 01:18:54 AM
Well... I didnt want to get a rifle right now, I didnt think I would play much in the summer, and I thought it would be a good idea anyways because the price might go down a bit. But I had this rifle in mind (G&G m4 R.I.S.)... Then I saw it on a website for 10% off.. So I got it :).. and a couple upgrades and accessories for it.. I had a ton of money, so I thought why the hell not, here is a list of upgrades and accessories.

ICS Stand Alone Flip-up Sight (on the way, not seen in pictures)
STAR QD Fore Grip (on the way, not seen in pictures)
Surefire flashlight (not seen in pictures)
Crane Stock
Guarder 1x30 Reflex Red Dot Sight with Low Profile AP Mount
King Arms G27 Pistol Grip
Laylax Mode-2 QD 16 Knights Suppressor
6.04 inner barrel
m120 spring
9.6v 3300 MAH battery

Pictures:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/ ... m4body.bmp (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/irishman0556/Gear/GGm4body.bmp)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/ ... /GGm42.bmp (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/irishman0556/Gear/GGm42.bmp)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/ ... /GGm41.bmp (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/irishman0556/Gear/GGm41.bmp)

I love the scope, its my favorite part, then the grip, its awesome. I thin im gonna paint this rifle.. HuMmMm :-k . The bad news is.. its only got like.. 100 shots thru it, I charged the battery for 15 minutes on low charge, and shot it a bit with Nate, and it started to smoke... I dont know if it was the battery, or if I did something stupid to make it do that, either way, redwolf was cool about it, ill get another one free soon. Well, hope you like it :)
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Post by: Cheeze_IZ_G00d on June 03, 2005, 05:58:10 AM
Damn man that is sweet.
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Post by: azsarge on June 03, 2005, 07:32:16 AM
That's a niece-looking rifle!  Looks just like CAG D's M4 before he added the recent accessories.

After dealing with Raven1s G&G M4, however, I will never be buying one.  There are several small flaws that kind of turned me off with G&G products altogether.  Hopefully, they are not present on your AEG.
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Post by: Dust2Dust on June 03, 2005, 08:21:38 AM
Nice gun, what about the pic you showed me, with all your gear?
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Post by: FarFromEinstein on June 03, 2005, 12:40:23 PM
lol... um.. Deleted all of those, I just wanted to get your reaction :)

And thanks guys :)

I hope this dosnt have any problems either.
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Post by: PHX COBRA on June 03, 2005, 12:58:42 PM
Quote from: "FarFromEinstein"
lol... um.. Deleted all of those, I just wanted to get your reaction :)

And thanks guys :)

I hope this dosnt have any problems either.


Only problem ive had with mine is when I first got it, a gear broke a tooth.  Replaced it with Systema gears and no problems.  But other then that it has run perfect.  I installed an M120 and silent headset.
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Post by: FarFromEinstein on June 03, 2005, 01:01:57 PM
hows the silent headset?
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Post by: busta_cap on June 03, 2005, 01:10:34 PM
Those don't quiet the gun very much at all..I actually saw a increase in sound because I put in a pdi 170%...Thats like a m130 on roids. They do however reduce the "shock" and hard hits against the cylinder and help reduce the risk of a gearbox crack.
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Post by: azsarge on June 03, 2005, 01:13:38 PM
pdi 170% = M120

Silent piston head sets DO eliminate the "snap" sound from the mechbox.  Like andy said, they also reduce the shock as well, which is a good thing.
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Post by: busta_cap on June 03, 2005, 01:14:45 PM
Quote from: "azsarge"
pdi 170% = M120

Silent piston head sets DO eliminate the "snap" sound from the mechbox.  Like andy said, they also reduce the shock as well, which is a good thing.
I highly beg to differ. The PDI 170 I got put me at 420-435fps with just it, a silent head set, and a spring guide....Explain THAT!
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Post by: FarFromEinstein on June 03, 2005, 01:18:00 PM
so they suck.. thanks guys :)
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Post by: busta_cap on June 03, 2005, 01:22:07 PM
No, its a very worth addition to the gearbox, especially if you are running a harder spring. It has probably saved my gearboxes from cracking under the pressure of my 170. Laying down 1200 rounds in just 4 minutes with a 170 in a gearbox without reinforced parts would probably  screw it up..
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Post by: FarFromEinstein on June 03, 2005, 01:25:09 PM
I have an m120, and most of the internals are already reinforced.
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Post by: studdermonkey on June 03, 2005, 01:29:31 PM
But you havent even fired it when it was upgraded. :-X

What a loser! You got owned by your battery!
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Post by: FarFromEinstein on June 03, 2005, 01:32:54 PM
true.. but im gonna get the battery in again soon, redwolf was nice about it, then i have a 9.6 2400mah on the way too...
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Post by: Firehead on June 03, 2005, 03:26:20 PM
Quote from: "busta_cap"
Quote from: "azsarge"
pdi 170% = M120

Silent piston head sets DO eliminate the "snap" sound from the mechbox.  Like andy said, they also reduce the shock as well, which is a good thing.
I highly beg to differ. The PDI 170 I got put me at 420-435fps with just it, a silent head set, and a spring guide....Explain THAT!


With just a spring, it will put you at 370-380. I had it in my old classic army M15A4 rifle, and it shot great.

Good looking rifle, I must say, but don't forget: the gun doesn't make the player.
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Post by: azsarge on June 03, 2005, 03:30:10 PM
Quote from: "busta_cap"
Quote from: "azsarge"
pdi 170% = M120

Silent piston head sets DO eliminate the "snap" sound from the mechbox.  Like andy said, they also reduce the shock as well, which is a good thing.
I highly beg to differ. The PDI 170 I got put me at 420-435fps with just it, a silent head set, and a spring guide....Explain THAT!


I have no idea why that would fire at that velocity.  With the same internals, I was at 380.  I think your experience was the exception rather than the rule.  

Far, DEFINTELY put a silent head set in your AEG.  I have one, and recommend it to anyone.  To upgrade an AEG, I recommend metal bushings, new spring (which you have both), and a silent head set.  In addition to greater gearbox durability, it has a bearing, which allows the spring to twist freely.  Some argue that this adds fps, but I simply did it to alleviate stress on my piston.  

While we're on the subject, I also recommend the following:
-bearing spring guide
-air seal nozzle
-teflon full cylinder (greater air volume than a ported M4 cylinder)
-Helical gears (I have super torque-ups, but any will do, depending on spring and battery used).  These gears are damn near indestructable - Over 25,000 rounds fired with these gears, and no signs of wear!
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Post by: FarFromEinstein on June 03, 2005, 04:01:14 PM
Ill look into some of those upgrades. But for now, I have more than enough money into this gun. And I just got a readymag for it too.
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Post by: Harley on June 03, 2005, 04:48:23 PM
Quote from: "busta_cap"
Quote from: "azsarge"
pdi 170% = M120

Silent piston head sets DO eliminate the "snap" sound from the mechbox.  Like andy said, they also reduce the shock as well, which is a good thing.
I highly beg to differ. The PDI 170 I got put me at 420-435fps with just it, a silent head set, and a spring guide....Explain THAT!


Didn't you also change your inner barrel andy?  And I don't think that spring is a 170%, remember the issues we had with the battery?  I think it's more like a 180%.
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Post by: busta_cap on June 03, 2005, 04:53:33 PM
That was before the inner barrel John, It might just be a fluke, maybe they stuck a 190 in there. Who knows, all I know is that M4 hits HARD!
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Post by: Harley on June 03, 2005, 04:55:26 PM
It's not uncommon to get a mis-packaged spring.  Seen that happen many times.  So did you tear the gun apart again or did the battery do the trick like I said?
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Post by: busta_cap on June 03, 2005, 04:57:59 PM
There was major shimming issues, right now a bevel gear is broken and SOMEONE stripped out the cut off lever screw so it doesnt sit right(fucking up the semi and full auto functions).
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Post by: Harley on June 03, 2005, 05:03:36 PM
Sorry to hear that, but that's what happens when you let too many people get their "unexperienced" hands into it.  I take it that it did work though with the new battery until you broke the gear tooth?
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Post by: azsarge on June 03, 2005, 05:08:40 PM
If it's just the screw, can't you replace it with one from the hardware store?

Who jacked it up?  Not only can inexperienced people mess up your box, but so can experienced people that are in a hurry.  I have seen as many guns messed up by shoddy maintenance from knowledgeable guys as I have from dudes who don't know a tappet plate from a selector plate.
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Post by: busta_cap on June 03, 2005, 05:08:43 PM
Somewhat, yes.
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Post by: Harley on June 03, 2005, 05:13:58 PM
OK then.  I did tell you that I had shimmed it very loose when I gave it back to the 2ND time I worked on it for FREE (after getting it in pieces in a box each time) didn't I?  You should be experienced enough by now to know when your gear box doesn't sound right and not shoot the crap out of it and strip the gears.  

As far as the screw goes, hit Ace hardware, they have a great selection of screws to choose from.
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Post by: azsarge on June 03, 2005, 05:23:39 PM
John, your avatar scares the sh*t out of me.
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Post by: chivaman on June 25, 2005, 11:08:11 PM
nice i like the crane stock