Airsoft Arizona
Off-Topic Forums => General Off-Topic Discussion => Topic started by: -MAD- SARGE on August 23, 2005, 10:09:29 PM
-
Did any one see those three lights South West of the Valley tonight? I just saw them as I was almost home tonight at about 9:50pm They were set in a configuration where the middle one was the highest in the sky and the second highest was to the west of the middle one and the third highest was to the east of the middle one. Well they were very low on the horizon, I thought they were towers of some kind but then remembered never seeing any towers up on the Estrella Mountains before. Plus the main factor was these points. They were a steady orangish-yellow light, reminded me of what a street light looks like at a distance. A tower would have a red flashing or steady becon on it for planes. The next thing which is the very oddest thing I have seen, was that the middle one dissapeared. It was like something moved infront of the light from left to right. Then 5 seconds later the left one did the same, and followed by the 3rd one. What was that all about?
-
It's obvious whatever I said at Jack in the Box made you go completely out of your mind.
-
You need to have a waiver signed by the people around you because when you opened your mouth Mikey about died laughing : )
I wonder if they could have been the tail end of aircraft using their afterburners? From when I noticed them to when they disappeared was about 5 mins. Could it have been a jet turning right, as I saw the light disappear with a sweep from left to right? Dont know if you would use your after burner for that long of a period of time? I just hear some jets or jet flying in. I am near Lukes flight path.
But why I didnt think it was a plane or planes, was due to the large light balls to the fact that if it were a plane I would have thought that I could tell if they were moving or not. But like I said they could have been going away from my position.
-
Doubt it was a jet.
THose lights would have been moving way to fast to confuse with any stable object. Plus, you wouldn't be able to see their burners from that distance. Not likely anyways (plus they probably wouldn't have been using burners within proximity... they usually only use them on takeoff around here).
Lastly, you would have seen every other light on a jet. Like the anti-collision lights and navigational lights.
SO keep asking.... because i doubt jet is the answer.
-
It probly was the same thing it was the last time that those lights appeared. Some kind of aircraft dropped flare on a parachute.
-
It probly was the same thing it was the last time that those lights appeared. Some kind of aircraft dropped flare on a parachute.
If you're talking about the infamous 'Phoenix lights' like 7, 8 years ago, those were no flares, man. The speed they were traveling, the directions, the formations....none of it consistent with flares. Luke also scrambled air intercepts with full combat payload that night, according to witnesses. And the flares would've had to have been dropped literally into some neighborhoods. And radar didn't pick up any aircraft in that area, and Luke denied having any military craft up at that time.
-
Well, it could be two things. Both, everyone is thinking of.. but no-one wants to say.
1. Drugs
2. Aliens
-
Well, it could be two things. Both, everyone is thinking of.. but no-one wants to say.
1. Drugs
2. Aliens
Remember when Symington, when on (1) came out with a dude in a (2) costume as an explanation to the Phoenix Lights?
Crazy.
-
...One possible explanation.
Sometimes when Vandenberg AFB has a launch, you see the missile/space payload/ ABM test ascend. VAFB is located N. of Los Angeles on the coast, and I've seen launches from as far away as Globe and Tucson as well.
It sometimes looks as if the missile is going backward.. Due to the launch trajectory and curvature of the Earth. Yellow lights could be a result of seeing the contrail through a low point of view with the dust and smog, like the yellow Moon when it rises sometimes.
Chip
-
...Oh, -and for those lights a few years back.. They were first reported in Kingman. -UFO in my book.
-
It probly was the same thing it was the last time that those lights appeared. Some kind of aircraft dropped flare on a parachute.
If you're talking about the infamous 'Phoenix lights' like 7, 8 years ago, those were no flares, man. The speed they were traveling, the directions, the formations....none of it consistent with flares. Luke also scrambled air intercepts with full combat payload that night, according to witnesses. And the flares would've had to have been dropped literally into some neighborhoods. And radar didn't pick up any aircraft in that area, and Luke denied having any military craft up at that time.
Yes I was taking about those lights and the airforce did say that it was flares.
"Close to Phoenix, to the west of the city, is the Luke Air Force Base (AFB - or Luke AFB – 56th Wing fighter equipped with F-16 planes. Luke AFB also hosts a training center for NATO pilots). The military authorities at Luke AFB were also questioned. First, they said that nothing anomalous occurred and they remained mute also. Only a few months later, the military released their own version of the events: the "Phoenix lights" resulted from a released of "flares" in the course of an exercise. Flares are decoys consisting in a light- and heat-emitting device. They are intended to fool air-to-air missiles fitted with an infra-red guiding system."
Don't go droppin your Art Bell shit on me.
-
I remember seeing those lights. I know what flares look like and those were not flares! The lights didn't drop, they moved at a steady pace through the sky in a triangular pattern. Notice Luke stayed quiet for a little and then said they dropped flares. Sounds a little more than suspishous to me! :shock:
-
Was that really the final explanation for the "Phoenix lights"? Flares?
I'm think I'm about to start in with my "good griefs" again.
Lead
-
Well, I saw one light to the north east of Mesa last night, (about 8:15) it appeared to be traveling straight down, then it disapeared.
I didn't see any to the southwest though...
-
No I was not on Drugs Nathan! :) Dont know what they were. There were three lights in a pyrimid formation that were non moving, steady balls of orangish-yellowish light. Steady until they individually disappeared in that eclispe effect. I guess I was the only one to see, they were very low on the horizon, but clearly in the air past the mountain range here. Dont know what they were, and will probally never know.
My "great" uncle was an Army Aircore Pilot back in the day. He flew supplies and troop transport. He told me that one night he was flying with one other C-47 late at night somewhere. He saw a small white light that was traveling at a high rate of speed. He thought it was an aircraft, but what a plane! It was amazing since it was traveling so fast for the distance that it looked to be at. He watched it travel across the sky as it then suddenly stopped for a second and then fell towards the horizon really fast for a few seconds. Next, as it was falling, the light istantly made a 90 degree turn to return to level flight and then streaked across the sky and dissapeared. Stunned, he looked over at his co-pilot, nodded and just keept on flying. Then the other C-47 pilot came over the radio and said " Ah Richey, did you just see what I saw?" He replied back "No, I didnt see a thing, and you didn't either, you got that?."....he answered "Right, I didn't see anything." Why did he say something like that? Well, because back then he told me, if a pilot reported something like that they usually were taken off of active flight duty and then never seen again by the unit. Some scary shit.
-
It was me guys, in my UFO...I was flying around...thought id mess with Ryans head!!!!
-
Crap! That means I missed the mothership again...
now I need to spend another year with you guys.
-
Yes I was taking about those lights and the airforce did say that it was flares.
"Close to Phoenix, to the west of the city, is the Luke Air Force Base (AFB - or Luke AFB – 56th Wing fighter equipped with F-16 planes. Luke AFB also hosts a training center for NATO pilots). The military authorities at Luke AFB were also questioned. First, they said that nothing anomalous occurred and they remained mute also. Only a few months later, the military released their own version of the events: the "Phoenix lights" resulted from a released of "flares" in the course of an exercise. Flares are decoys consisting in a light- and heat-emitting device. They are intended to fool air-to-air missiles fitted with an infra-red guiding system."
Don't go droppin your Art Bell s*** on me.
Yeah, the Air Force has always been so honest and open about UFOs, right? According to hundreds of eyewitness accounts, the lights seen were not consistent in any way shape or form with flares. Sky Harbor detected no aircraft in that vicinity...what dropped the flares? Ground launch? Perhaps, but doubtful. And what of the accounts of the lights moving close to the ground at speeds not attainable by flares? What about reports of people having seen shape between the lights? And how about the fact that those lights were seen moving from the Henderson-Vegas area all the way to Tucson that night? That's alot of flares, my friend, that last for a long time.
-
Yes I was taking about those lights and the airforce did say that it was flares.
"Close to Phoenix, to the west of the city, is the Luke Air Force Base (AFB - or Luke AFB – 56th Wing fighter equipped with F-16 planes. Luke AFB also hosts a training center for NATO pilots). The military authorities at Luke AFB were also questioned. First, they said that nothing anomalous occurred and they remained mute also. Only a few months later, the military released their own version of the events: the "Phoenix lights" resulted from a released of "flares" in the course of an exercise. Flares are decoys consisting in a light- and heat-emitting device. They are intended to fool air-to-air missiles fitted with an infra-red guiding system."
Don't go droppin your Art Bell s*** on me.
Yeah, the Air Force has always been so honest and open about UFOs, right? According to hundreds of eyewitness accounts, the lights seen were not consistent in any way shape or form with flares. Sky Harbor detected no aircraft in that vicinity...what dropped the flares? Ground launch? Perhaps, but doubtful. And what of the accounts of the lights moving close to the ground at speeds not attainable by flares? What about reports of people having seen shape between the lights? And how about the fact that those lights were seen moving from the Henderson-Vegas area all the way to Tucson that night? That's alot of flares, my friend, that last for a long time.
It is good to know that hundreds of phoenix residents know a military flare from a UFO ("look at the angel wings off the back of that C-130!"). And I might add where are the tapes of the high speed low flying triangular crafts? And how many towns are in between here and Vegas that can attest to the lights traveling that far? all that crap is here-say. I do admit the military is not always forthcoming with info but they have a right to be, from what I remember they were having a NATO joint training that night and some european duffs popped some slow falling flares out the back of their jets or some crap like that. I am not here to aggrivate or argument on wheather UFOs exist or not and I do not mean to sound harsh, but I got to stand up for the sceptics. I would like to hear that one of our military's super-duper-uber-top-secret aurora flying saucers picked up Osama one night and rearranged his organs though, I would be a believer then.
-
First of all, it's important the term 'UFO' from 'alien spaceship.' I'm not saying there were aliens over Phoenix that night. I am saying, however, that there is no way in hell that those lights were flares. In one night, those lights traveled from the Henderson-Vegas area to Tucson. They passed over roughly 9 cities.
I think it's highly possible that those lights were in fact a test version of some sort of aircraft the Air Force is testing. It's been revealed that many of the UFO sightings of the 80s of triangular black 'alien spaceships' turned out to be the F-117 and the B-2 stealths.
And I think we would all love to wake up one morning to find out that Osama had recently had been reduced to small, singed particles smeared over the desert floor. When we get him, and Zarqawi, I'm throwing a party.
-
Doubt it was a jet.
THose lights would have been moving way to fast to confuse with any stable object. Plus, you wouldn't be able to see their burners from that distance. Not likely anyways (plus they probably wouldn't have been using burners within proximity... they usually only use them on takeoff around here).
Lastly, you would have seen every other light on a jet. Like the anti-collision lights and navigational lights.
SO keep asking.... because i doubt jet is the answer.
They were 4 RAF Tornado F3s leaving Luke. About 2145, right Ryan?
sNiPeRwOlF, you really ought to stay in your lane.
-
Yeah, I saw the three lights at 9:50pm and they disappeared at 10:05pm. Then at 10:23 I heard a jet or jets flying near my house. Its too hard to tell which way they were flying, to or from luke. The area South of my house is the direction where most of the jets fly to for their manuvers.
Oh, and for anyone who may not know, UFO mean Unidentified Flying Object and does not mean flying saucer with aliens inside.
-
And I think we would all love to wake up one morning to find out that Osama had recently had been reduced to small, singed particles smeared over the desert floor. When we get him, and Zarqawi, I'm throwing a party
Id rather have him in large pieces, that way we know its actually him.
-
Ryan its easily explained
methane gas( CH4) cloud from the cow farms ignited by the pressure front moving in from the southwest caused a temporal distortion in the Space time continual
understand.............
-
I knew thats what it was, I just didnt want to look like a LARPing Dork :P
Thanks for coming foward with the real reasoning Dave :)
-
NO problem. Now I have to get back to realigning my dielythem crystals for my flux copasitor.
-
Now this is one for the books, boys. I don't know, Ryan, I'm tending to go for the drugs theory. The rest of you, well, who knows .......
-
Well, it could be two things. Both, everyone is thinking of.. but no-one wants to say.
1. Drugs
2. Aliens
3. Comies Poisoned the water!!! :D
-
Too Funny that Ice Platinum Sky would responed to someone seeing lights in the sky....LOL
Why did you see a platinum Sky there Brian?
-
Too Funny that Ice Platinum Sky would responed to someone seeing lights in the sky....LOL
Why did you see a platinum Sky there Brian?
:shock: Apparently so.... Cause I missed the lights!!!!
-
I had a grandfather who was in the air force. He told me countless stories of seeing UFO's (he grew up in nevada and flew in the air force and air natl guard all over the southwest). He also had SOME top secret clearance and he also flew into area 51 every now and then. He told me he doesnt think there are aliens at A51 or anything of the sort. His reasoning for all of the strange sightings were top secret government projects.
Thats what I tend to believe. If the AF is testing some awesome new technology its not crazy to think that PHX would be in the flight paths from time to time.
BTW- My grandfather flew in an F-104 from vegas to phx in about 9 minutes (mach 2.5). Not bad eh?