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Offline pilz

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Classic army CQB
« on: December 28, 2006, 01:31:01 PM »
I have owned two of these great rifles. I was very impressed with their out of the box preformance, my first one chroned at 350fps with .20's. My second CQB chroned at 300fps with .20's, even though there is a big difference in their FPS both of them worked great. They come with a full metal reciever with Armalight trade marks along with their full metal RIS unit. The only items on the rifle that are not metal are the stock which I believe is abs which is very sturdy, the pistol grip, forward RIS grip and rail covers. Although it does not have the range and accuracy that most people enjoy having, that can easily be changed. I put a little 100mm silencer on my CQB that I own now, in order to house a 363mm Km tightbore this made a big differencer in the groupings of the bb's. I also added a Bigout hopup nub, and a m120 spring, this brought the fps up to 407 with .20's, and increased the range due to the better hopup.Although i was satisfied with the gun stock, I decided to try to upgrade it. So far the gun has seen 1000 rounds with the m120 in it, and nothing has gone wrong with it. There is somthing that I always hear everyone complain about when they buy a CQB, the way the battery goes into the stock. There are a few diffedrent battery configurations for the CQB crane stock, and people usualy don't know how to put it in or just complain that it is to hard. After getting my CQB it took me a few times of putting the battery in and talking it out to get the hang of how it works. Once i knew how to put it in the right way, it was as easy as putting a large battery into a m16 stock. Another problem with the battery that can also be easily fixed is the connections on the cells are genrally poorly done which in turn causes them to come off. This is an easy fix, just take it to your nearest batteriesplus, or re solder the connection(s) and put hot glue over them to ensure they stay on.







The following is a test I did of my CQB before i upgraded it and after shooting at a paper plate sized taget from 120ft.

CQB Stock at 120ft
Semi- I was able to hit the target 3 out of 5 times while the weapon was rested stabely.
Auto- Out of a 8 burst 12 bb's hit tthe target ( I noticed the spread to start taking affect over the range)

CQB with tightbore, new hopup and m120
Semi- I was able to hit the target 4 out of 5 times on while the weapon
Auto- out of 8 bursts I counted 20 bb's that hit the target.

These tests where conducted when there was no wind, and a new paper plate was put out before each test.

Pros
All metal construction
Solid
Good FPS and ROF out of the box
compact size is good for MOUNT envirements.
RIS system is good for mounting flashlights, foregrips and other accesories.

Cons
Battery can be hard to put in.
Some parts are ABS
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by pilz »
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2006, 07:25:43 PM »

upgrades:
systema 120
systema gears


nice review...  got one myself, one of the best that i've owned.
got a crazy rate of fire, stripped two piston head screws, ate one CA gear, and still kicks ass..... need helical gears, and silent piston head, and this new hop up system??? explain yours please, i'm really interested in gettin one.
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2006, 09:25:09 PM »
Yeah, I never asked, but you kinda brought it up so, why the hell did you sell your 1st CQB to my buddy, if you were just gonna buy a new CQB?  That's just stupid if you ask me, then again, no one asked me :lol:
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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2006, 09:55:07 PM »
Jon buys and sells guns like crazy, isn;t that right pilz
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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2006, 10:47:36 PM »
yes jon does :)
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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2006, 11:33:02 PM »
Quote from: "Morgann0"
Yeah, I never asked, but you kinda brought it up so, why the hell did you sell your 1st CQB to my buddy, if you were just gonna buy a new CQB?  That's just stupid if you ask me, then again, no one asked me :lol:

I am really not sure why I sold the first one, but I did and I couldn't change that ,so i boguht another one.
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2007, 09:28:32 PM »
Great review.  Where did you get that "bigout Hop up nub" at?  How hard was it to install?
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2007, 10:29:43 PM »
redwolf.
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2007, 11:32:36 PM »
Quote from: "GUNFIGHTER6"
Great review.  Where did you get that "bigout Hop up nub" at?  How hard was it to install?

Redwolfairsoft.com Its easy to do, but i would have someon help you becuase the first time is hard.
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2007, 12:57:39 AM »
Yeah I would tend to agree with that.  Does anyone run a class where they teach you how to maintain and upgrade AEG's?
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2007, 09:08:03 PM »
Quote from: "GUNFIGHTER6"
Yeah I would tend to agree with that.  Does anyone run a class where they teach you how to maintain and upgrade AEG's?

I just had to learn the hard way.. Dean at softair depot did show me how to do most of the stuff i know... the rest was trial and error.
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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2007, 01:48:07 PM »
same here, man i learned all of the stuff the hard way....
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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2007, 03:52:35 PM »
I used to own this gun too.. the first one I bought was dead after one day but I exchanged it and used the second one for several months.
I added a 120 spring in it to raise the FPS.
I thought it was a pretty good gun. very loud and nice ROF.
the metal body was nice but the RIS and/or crane batteries seemed to make the gun pretty heavy.
the accessories like the sights and switches had the usual Classic Army black spray paint on them so I replaced most of that stuff.
great starter gun but CA's have known issues with their trigger mechanisms and they eventually go out after awhile.
eventually I sold it and got a Marui M4 Carbine because I wanted something with a longer barrel.
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