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Do you need a longer inner barrel with a silencer install?
« on: April 28, 2012, 10:48:53 PM »
just wodering if i need a longer inner barrel with a Trinity Gemtech silencer. and also my barrel length is 363mm so if i did need a larger inner barrel since the length dimension is about 135mm would i need maybe a 455mm tightbore? thanks any advice or help would be great:)
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Re: Do you need a longer inner barrel with a silencer install?
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2012, 10:53:23 PM »
no. you dont need a longer inner barrel. the "silencer" is merely for looks.
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Re: Do you need a longer inner barrel with a silencer install?
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2012, 11:07:02 PM »
no. you dont need a longer inner barrel. the "silencer" is merely for looks.
The supressor is just there to hide/protect your longer inner barrel if you were to do that.
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Re: Do you need a longer inner barrel with a silencer install?
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2012, 11:12:19 PM »
That's why I bought a fake suppressor. I have one on my mp5 hiding a 363m barrel (m4 length) in it. But you should totally buy the tightbore if you're gonna put the suppressor on there.
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Re: Do you need a longer inner barrel with a silencer install?
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2012, 07:29:16 PM »
Another thing is that the barrel supressor is going to lose some of its length when you attach it so you are going to want an inner barrel a little bit shorter than that unless you want  it sticking out.
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Re: Do you need a longer inner barrel with a silencer install?
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2012, 10:01:28 AM »
You don't need it, but it's recommended that you do if you want precision accuracy.  Why?

No, not because longer/tighter barrels are more accurate.  It's physics and aerodynamics.  Given the fact that we play this game with very small, lightweight objects, it doesn't take much to throw them spinning out of balance.  A small change of wind or pressure can throw off a shot at longer distances, so your groupings may not be optimal.

I could draw it out, but what happens to a bb when it leaves a 6.03mm barrel and enters a 7mm+ barrel (suppressor) with air still pushing behind it?  Unless that bb is directly in the center of the air cushion, slight differences in air pressure can cause its path to change enough to throw off a shot.  Couple that with the fact that you could be using a cylinder that was built for a 363mm barrel and it may not have enough air volume to push it through an additional #mm of barrel effectively.

Of course, this is the DMR in me speaking.  There are many factors that would require a separate thread.  But in summary, if you are worried about extreme accuracy, I would recommend lengthening your barrel when you put on a suppressor.  Otherwise, throw it on and enjoy the eye-candy. :)
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Re: Do you need a longer inner barrel with a silencer install?
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2012, 11:55:38 AM »
Shadow, I've been wondering about that actually. My suppressor is completely hollow, so the bb leaves the 6.03mm barrel and flies through the ~30mm suppressor for a little. That would be interesting to see the physics/dynamics behind that.... But that could be cause I'm studying engineering.....
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Re: Do you need a longer inner barrel with a silencer install?
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2012, 12:31:14 PM »
Shadow, I've been wondering about that actually. My suppressor is completely hollow, so the bb leaves the 6.03mm barrel and flies through the ~30mm suppressor for a little. That would be interesting to see the physics/dynamics behind that.... But that could be cause I'm studying engineering.....

Well, like I said, the amount of change we are talking about is not very much at all, but it may be just enough to put a shot a couple inches off.  A couple inches at 50-75 feet isn't much.  But beyond 100 feet, it would continue off-course and completely miss the target.  Not to mention your spread changes drastically, which is why you see shots curve in different directions on occasion.

If you're a DMR like I am and want that accuracy at a long distance, you take everything into consideration.
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Re: Do you need a longer inner barrel with a silencer install?
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2012, 12:34:37 PM »
Trumpet The BB gains back pressure through the Silencer.  It's Ideal to make sure the barrel goes all the way to the end. Though, then you need to be care full and adjust for barrel wobble. I grabbed a rubber wheel that was about 3cm  in diameter and ground it down on my grinding wheel. Then slipped that over the barrel and it acted like a holster for the barrel inside the silencer.

Also with a Polarstar if you have a flash hider that makes your gun louder the sound pressure will crack cheaper bb's and cause them to split Horizontally after about 30 ft. Polarstar will argue this is because of the DN setting on the FCU though I can provide statistical proof that it is not the case. 

Some simple modifications that are cheep you can make to your gun to make it shoot faster without having to buy springs, cylinders etc.. Are done at the hop-up nub level.  You can greatly increase your distance without adding FPS to the Replica. I.E: Rhop.. Eliminating Barrel wobble. Setting your hop-up to make your BB travel up at the end of it's cycle just slightly. ( will give you an extra 30-50 ft.)  To eliminate barrel wobble if it wobbles currently  is to do -->
 (image http://media.photobucket.com/image/spiral%20barrel%20black%20tabe%20wrap/back_marker/airsoft/tech/teflon-wrap.jpg)  Don't wrap the barrel like this gentleman did yet make sure that the tape doesn't overlap. This can greatly help with barrel wobble (tip compliments of Dayton) All these options are cheap to do and still maintain a stock gun and still get greater distances without compromising FPS.


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Re: Do you need a longer inner barrel with a silencer install?
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2012, 04:54:18 PM »
I'll probably mess with some stuff when I'm home from school. (Finals start Friday...) I have maybe 2 inches after the end of my barrel before the end of my suppressor. My suppressor doesn't open up or unscrew at all I don't think, so I believe the "holster" idea is out of the question.
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