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Re: New Basic Training Hardens 'Softer Generation'
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2010, 06:41:10 AM »
Oct things will open again. Maybe. The Military in general is downsizing and we aren't giving as many options as before. Bonus's are gone for the most part, special schools are being used to retain troops, not to give to intial entry, ASVAB scores are higher, and there are very few waivers.

The only real way to back door a Ranger Contract is to some how get lucky enough to go 11X with an Airborne option.

Keep in mind that if you dont pass the APFT at 60% (not the new gay 50% to graduate BCT) in the 18-21 age group you will no longer have an Airborne option, also if for any reason you cant make your Jump School training seat (illiness, profile ect) you won't retain your Airborne option.

Anyway with an AB option and 11X at Jump School you will be asked if you wanna go to RIP, prior to reporting to your unit.

Then again you could just go 11X do really good at your unit and earn the right to go to Ranger School. Every unit is given slots (even the Guard) to go to RIP.

If you fail Ranger School. you will retain your MOS and you might be kept in Ranger Batt, however you will be treated as a piece of shit. You will get a chance to go back through Ranger school (all three phases, no matter when you fell out) My NCOIC is a Ranger if you want more information send me a private message.
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Re: New Basic Training Hardens 'Softer Generation'
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2010, 10:50:43 AM »
Granted I have never served.


I have been thinking about joining and have so for the last 4 years (waiting to finish my degree) now even I know that the "old" basic was all a mental game it just seems to me that the youth who wants to join are all give me and don't want to work for anything it don't take a rocket scientist to pass basic

The field I am looking at is not liked much but hey it is what. Studied (cid/ncis/osi) but who knows I still not sure what branch/ when I want to go in

It just seems sad that the recruits have to be handfeed through basic when in the old days it was almost an honor to make it through basic but hey play video games and eat those mcdoubles

If your going to the military at least be in shape
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Re: New Basic Training Hardens 'Softer Generation'
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2010, 09:47:56 PM »
BCT is not a mental game.

It is not easy, but it's the likely the easiest thing you'll ever do in the military.  All you have to do is be in the right place, at the right time, in the right uniform, and have an open mind.

If you ever want to join, do it now.  The longer you wait, the more behind the curve you will be.  If you're a semester away from a bachelors, finish.  If not, let the GI Bill cover your education after you get out.

I went to school for 2 years and fucked around with retail jobs before joining at 23.  Now I wish I would have gone in at 17.

With regard to BCT being "easier", okay.  Send me some fucked up, fresh AIT graduate and I'll either fix him (if he's a good soldier) or get him out of the army (if he doesn't ant to be here).  BCT showed me what the army is like, AIT showed me what my MOS is like, and my Unit taught me how to combine both to become an asset.  The latter is where the real learning takes place.
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Re: New Basic Training Hardens 'Softer Generation'
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2010, 09:53:48 PM »
Quote from: "azsarge"
BCT is not a mental game.

I didn't mean its all mental but a good portion is about mental states.
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