Airsoft Arizona
Airsoft Hardware => AEG's => Topic started by: BoD_Davis8207 on January 30, 2012, 08:51:24 PM
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I recently purchased this gun and love it, but was wondering if there was anything you all would recommend I do to it to make this gun even better without actually raising FPS. I am new to the airsoft game and I am unsure of what you could do. Any suggestions?
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well you could get a tight bore barrel but youre fps would raise by 5 or 10
you could get a high speed or torque motor
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Just replace the barrel with a tightbore, maybe get a decent hopup bucking, and throw a good battery in it; probably a 9.6.
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i think the max that ak can fit is an 8.4 outside of the realm of lipos
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They're definitely not common, but here's one.
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_47&products_id=7739 (http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_47&products_id=7739)
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And what would a new battery do for the gun? Make it last longer, shoot harder?
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Well one thing is, that you'll see an increase of rof. Also if you plan on playing cqb a lot or a mixture of field and cqb I would get a new high torque motor, tbb, spring, and battery like mentioned above if you don't already have some of those items.
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Rof?
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Rate of Fire.
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So I guess I will start with potentially getting a new battery and motor. Thank you. And also, how do you feel about other things than just the iron sights. Like a red dot, or something?
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Well again in my opinion it depends on where you plan on playing for cqb I would probably stick with iron sights or get a reflex or t1. For something along the lines of field I'd use a 551 or aimpoint. But with those being said you have to take into consideration that you'll be playing outside so lighting will obviously be different. If you do plan on purchasing an optic make sure to watch or read up some reviews and pay attention to things like battery life, performance, and how well one would be able to see the reticle outside.
Link to a whole variety of optics: http://www.evike.com/index.php?cPath=32_182 (http://www.evike.com/index.php?cPath=32_182)
Also if you do plan on purchasing from evike be wary because according to what I've read on here the customer satisfaction varies from person to person. I on the other hand have ordered from them on 5 seperate occasions with 1 problem which was that being they sent me the wrong balaclava. The problem itself was quickly addressed and they sent me the right one plus I got to keep the original one. I simply posted the link to evikes site instead of GI because they are usually cheaper when it comes to optics.
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Don't fix it if it's not broken!
If you don't want to increase the FPS, there is no reason to put a stronger spring in it. If your not putting a stronger spring in it, there is no reason to put a high torque motor in it.
The ONLY thing I would recommend to change is to put a Tight Bore Barrel and a good hop-up bucking on it. This will increase accuracy, and effective range.
Putting a Red Dot sight on it isn't a bad idea, but personally, I just use the Iron Sights. Once you get familiar with your weapon, you may end up just holding the gun to your cheek and shooting. I hardly even pay attention to my Iron Sights anymore, and I find it takes too long to get on target with a Red Dot, much quicker to just look down along the barrel and aim that way. But this is just opinion, some people find it very beneficial to use a Red Dot. So I'd say start with a really cheap one, see how you like using it, then upgrade later on when it gets shot out.
Get a Smart Charger! You don't want to be that guy that shows up to the game and it turns out his battery isn't charged all the way, or you accidentally overcharged it, and you start asking everybody around if they have a battery charger. Nobody likes that guy. ;)
Then pick a battery that fits you, a good quality battery will last longer. And I ALWAYS bring at least 1 extra battery to every game. The higher the mAh rating, the longer the battery will last on one charge. The higher the voltage, the faster the motor turns, which in turn increases your Rate of Fire (how many bb's per second). So, find a VOLTAGE that fits you, then find the Largest mAh rating battery in that voltage that will fit in your gun.
Then I'd recommend putting Deans plugs on your gun, batteries, and charger. Deans plugs provide a much better connection between your battery and gun. They have less resistance, and higher amperage capacity, which in turn increases how long your battery lasts, and puts less strain on your motor, as well as increasing its ROF due to no voltage drop through the connector. If you are not good at Soldering, just ask somebody on here to do it for you, or take it to Gearbox and have them do it for you. It won't cost that much to do, and you'll save yourself headache down the road.
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Wow. All great advice. I am definitely going to look into getting a new battery first. A higher voltage one from what I understand. There is just one more question, for this gun especially, can I purchase a mag that is " self " winding?
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Found a few: http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_56_432&products_id=31210 (http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_56_432&products_id=31210)
http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_56_432&products_id=28292 (http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_56_432&products_id=28292)
http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_56_432&products_id=33402 (http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_56_432&products_id=33402)
http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_56_432&products_id=37555 (http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_56_432&products_id=37555)
http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_56_432&products_id=29965 (http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_56_432&products_id=29965)
http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_56_432&products_id=34835 (http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_56_432&products_id=34835)
If you don't mind the "low capacity" you could just get a box of AK midcaps for around the same price. I don't know if you know what mid-caps are, but basically there a magazine that can hold anywhere from 20-200 rounds and don't require winding at all. Plus they make no noise!
Mid-caps- http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_56_492&products_id=28085 (http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_56_492&products_id=28085)
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If you don't want to increase the FPS, there is no reason to put a stronger spring in it. If your not putting a stronger spring in it, there is no reason to put a high torque motor in it.
I'd disagree on that point. A high torque motor with a lower powered spring gives you nearly instant trigger response, even on somewhat lower powered batteries.
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I'd recommend playing with the gun first and find out what you like and don't like about it. The best thing to do is leave your gearbox alone and just stick putting a new tightbore barrel in and a decent bucking to increase range and accuracy. If you want a higher rate of fire then switch out the battery.
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If you don't want to increase the FPS, there is no reason to put a stronger spring in it. If your not putting a stronger spring in it, there is no reason to put a high torque motor in it.
I'd disagree on that point. A high torque motor with a lower powered spring gives you nearly instant trigger response, even on somewhat lower powered batteries.
That is a good point too.
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If you don't want to increase the FPS, there is no reason to put a stronger spring in it. If your not putting a stronger spring in it, there is no reason to put a high torque motor in it.
I'd disagree on that point. A high torque motor with a lower powered spring gives you nearly instant trigger response, even on somewhat lower powered batteries.
If you don't want to increase the FPS, there is no reason to put a stronger spring in it. If your not putting a stronger spring in it, there is no reason to put a high torque motor in it.
I'd disagree on that point. A high torque motor with a lower powered spring gives you nearly instant trigger response, even on somewhat lower powered batteries.
If the guy has high torque motor money, he should have enough left over for a lipo or mosfet. :p
Well that or he could be bad at money management and puts 3/4 of his money into airsoft.
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You can get good high torque motors for $50. You aren't going to get a LiPo, charger, and decent MOSFET for close to that.
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Yeah I wouldn't get them all at once, I would just buy just the mosfet or just the battery. If you're a serious airsofter you should've already gotten a good charger ;)
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Bob, have you played much yet? The gun in stock form should be good enough to see you through several games. I'd just get a NiMh battery and a decent charger for now.
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Does getting a new charger instantly charge the battery? I notice everyone to keep telling me ro get one
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I have one of those blue "smart chargers" sold everywhere, and it charges up my AK-style stick battery in about a half hour.
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Does getting a new charger instantly charge the battery? I notice everyone to keep telling me ro get one
It doesn't charge it instantly. It just increases battery life and doesn't under or over charge the battery. It's one of the best investments you can get in airsoft.
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Is the charger usually classified as a " smart charger "? Also, if my battery is charged, is it smart to leave in gun hooked up or do you all recommend I wait until I play before hooking it up?
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Is the charger usually classified as a " smart charger "? Also, if my battery is charged, is it smart to leave in gun hooked up or do you all recommend I wait until I play before hooking it up?
Yes it is and don't leave your battery plugged in as it can drain the battery.
Smart Charger: http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Smart-Charger-Airsoft-NiCad/dp/B001CAXNTW (http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Smart-Charger-Airsoft-NiCad/dp/B001CAXNTW)
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Is the charger usually classified as a " smart charger "? Also, if my battery is charged, is it smart to leave in gun hooked up or do you all recommend I wait until I play before hooking it up?
Yes it is and don't leave your battery plugged in as it can drain the battery.
Smart Charger: http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Smart-Charger-Airsoft-NiCad/dp/B001CAXNTW (http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Smart-Charger-Airsoft-NiCad/dp/B001CAXNTW)
You mean plugged into charger, right? Or is leaving it plugged into gun bad also?
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Is the charger usually classified as a " smart charger "? Also, if my battery is charged, is it smart to leave in gun hooked up or do you all recommend I wait until I play before hooking it up?
Yes it is and don't leave your battery plugged in as it can drain the battery.
Smart Charger: http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Smart-Charger-Airsoft-NiCad/dp/B001CAXNTW (http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Smart-Charger-Airsoft-NiCad/dp/B001CAXNTW)
So that charger works for all airsoft batteries? And it tells you when battery is completely charged?
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To answer your questions... No, and sometimes.
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Is the charger usually classified as a " smart charger "? Also, if my battery is charged, is it smart to leave in gun hooked up or do you all recommend I wait until I play before hooking it up?
Smart Charger: http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Smart-Charger-Airsoft-NiCad/dp/B001CAXNTW (http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Smart-Charger-Airsoft-NiCad/dp/B001CAXNTW)
So that charger works for all airsoft batteries? And it tells you when battery is completely charged?
I just wouldn't leave it plugged in to either for too long and yes the charger has an indicator light that stays red when charging and switches to green when fully charged.
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Sweet, good deal. I'm going to order tomorrow. Thank you