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« on: February 16, 2004, 04:09:40 PM »
Sorry to see that.  That part about Predator is not entirely accurate.  The 5.56mm round would not have put the actor on his back, the minigun that was used was not "cable driven" with a wire down his pants, the actor did not wear any protection (the cases eject towards the ground), the 25kg of ammo is not too much to lug around, and the 20 seconds of sustained fire is about right...and these guns have a variable rate of fire:  trust me, I load these things.
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2004, 04:11:32 PM »
Good article Christian.  Not to mention the fact that there's no way humanly possible for one man to carry the ammo and batteries needed to operate it in the field like they portrayed in the movie.
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2004, 04:14:08 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by TheCrow</i>
<br />Sorry to see that.  That part about Predator is not entirely accurate.  The 5.56mm round would not have put the actor on his back, the minigun that was used was not "cable driven" with a wire down his pants, the actor did not wear any protection (the cases eject towards the ground), the 25kg of ammo is not too much to lug around, and the 20 seconds of sustained fire is about right...and these guns have a variable rate of fire:  trust me, I load these things.

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In 5.56 it probably wouldn't, but in 7.62 it might.  I also read on another forum some years back that they did run the battery cable's down his pant leg to hide them.  Got any insight on that Vell?
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2004, 04:16:24 PM »
Besides, the actor in question is none other than Jesse "The Body" Ventura.  I am sure if he did not have time to bleed, he certainly would not have had time to be "lying on his back, being forced off the legs by the violent recoil".

Just my observation.
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2004, 05:08:02 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by TheCrow</i>
<br />[...]trust me, I load these things.

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The 5.56 or 7.62?  I wasn't aware the 5.56 was used that much.  In fact, did they even make that many[?]

What are they mounted on when you load them?
(and don't say "a table" or "a workbench"[:P])
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2004, 08:19:24 PM »
Man, the GAU-8 develops over 4 tons of recoil force!
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2004, 08:40:40 PM »
That recoil force could propel my toyota truck up a hill.   Who needs gasoline [:P]
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2004, 09:28:32 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by -MAD- SARGE</i>
<br />That recoil force could propel my toyota truck up a hill.   Who needs gasoline [:P]
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That will really deal with tailgaters...
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2004, 10:03:50 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Basher</i>
<br />Man, the GAU-8 develops over 4 tons of recoil force!
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Now, I don't know if this is true or not (there is tons of false info in the civ world regarding military hardware), but I saw on an old episode of Discovery Channel's "WINGS" that the A-10 decelerates rapidly due to the "recoil" of the 30mm, even in a dive.  Interesting, even it it's false (which it most likely is).

Sounds like a load of "cool fun facts about military stuff!" BS to me, but does anyone know for SURE?

Vell?
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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2004, 10:10:04 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by azsarge</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Basher</i>
<br />Man, the GAU-8 develops over 4 tons of recoil force!
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Now, I don't know if this is true or not (there is tons of false info in the civ world regarding military hardware), but I saw on an old episode of Discovery Channel's "WINGS" that the A-10 decelerates rapidly due to the "recoil" of the 30mm, even in a dive.  Interesting, even it it's false (which it most likely is).

Sounds like a load of "cool fun facts about military stuff!" BS to me, but does anyone know for SURE?

Vell?
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Good old Wings.

I seem to remember that it slows the A-10 down, and could stop it if the plane could carry that much ammo and if the gun would fire that long.

Maybe not... Not sure now.  Probably saw the same episode of Wings.

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I think the big gun on AC-130s (105mm?) move it noticably to the side when they fire it.  An Iowa class battleship firing all nine 16" guns in one broadside moves the 60000 ton ship something like 11 feet sideways... Thats a lot of force.
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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2004, 10:39:17 PM »
<i>Posted by Raith</i><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">An Iowa class battleship firing all nine 16" guns in one broadside moves the 60000 ton ship something like 11 feet sideways... Thats a lot of force. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2004, 10:52:29 PM »
Good god, and they still have problems moving traffic in LA and NY. Man, the possibiltes are endless... Think about lanes moving due to violent discharges of weapons [:O]
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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2004, 06:58:05 AM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by azsarge</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Basher</i>
<br />Man, the GAU-8 develops over 4 tons of recoil force!
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Now, I don't know if this is true or not (there is tons of false info in the civ world regarding military hardware), but I saw on an old episode of Discovery Channel's "WINGS" that the A-10 decelerates rapidly due to the "recoil" of the 30mm, even in a dive.  Interesting, even it it's false (which it most likely is).

Sounds like a load of "cool fun facts about military stuff!" BS to me, but does anyone know for SURE?

Vell?
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Actually I remember Turd telling me that if he fired the one on his Apache for long burst it would push the aircraft backwards.  I saw that episode of Wings as well.
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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2004, 09:36:49 AM »
Watch Monster Garage's Jessie James and a Dillon Mini gun in action!

http://www.public.asu.edu/~jbovenzi/images/gun.wmv
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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2004, 10:08:21 AM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Harley</i>
<br />Watch Monster Garage's Jessie James and a Dillon Mini gun in action!

http://www.public.asu.edu/~jbovenzi/images/gun.wmv
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YEEEEEEEEHHAAAAAAAW!! [}:)] Outstanding!

That looked like Dillons Huey as well.
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