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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2004, 09:21:47 PM »
Isn't there one in August, too? I think I saw a billboard today.
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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2004, 10:46:12 PM »
I think they'll drop their prices in Septemeber, at least a majority of them will.  Last minute desperation trying to salvage as much as they can on those precious pre-ban items before the value drops to less than what they originally paid for them.  There should be some deals there for sure, but if you really want to get in on some deals then do like I have and get yourselve on a pre-order list for things like C-mags and such.  I'm in line to buy a new C-mag for $250 as soon as the AWB sunsets.  Next will be some 100 and 50 round drum mags for the Thompson.  God... I'm going to be broke for a long time I can see it now.
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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2004, 06:30:43 AM »
I think that's the problem - EVERYONE has a huge list of things they are going to get after the AWB sunsets, and everyone and their dog has a C-MAG and (former) preban uppers on their list.  I can see that creating a shortage due to high demand, which usually leads to an increase in price for those that already have the items; selling them (not an increase over what current C-MAgs go for - but an increase in the factory retail price).  Same for uppers.
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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2004, 07:14:10 AM »
Ok, real quick... i have the chance to grab a 26" barreld Rem.700PSS for a tad over $600.... so now my question is...can someone give me some pros and cons of botht the Rem.700 and the Savage?  Im lookin to do this quick, so if you knwo anything, please let me know!
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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2004, 08:46:59 AM »
I don't see it that way.  Hell I'm sure Beta has a stock pile of restricted mags that they'd be happy to unload.  All they need to do is replace the back cover that has the LE restricted markings with a plain one and ship them out.  Yes the demand with make some prices go up on some items, but at least the items will be available at prices that are way lower than what are being asked today.
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« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2004, 09:05:13 AM »
So you think that preban AR15 uppers will be LESS expensive in September than they are now?  Or did I misunderstand you?

...and to address the Rem 700 vs Savage 308.  I was in the same position and went with the Remington 700 ONLY because I found a 24" PSS model at a steal of a price.  If it had been the 26" PSS or the (current) 26" P model, I would have gone with the Savage 10FP .308.  It's about half the price and has the same performance as the Rem 700 out of the box and a MUCH better (stock) trigger.  The 700 is capable of much more and has a lot more "upgrades" you can do to it, but that wasn't my plan.
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« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2004, 09:26:48 AM »
what sort of upgrades are you talking about though?  I cant imagine myself chaing stocks or barrels, and if i was gonna replace the trigger, then i might as well get the savage.  They both take bipods and scopes just the same.  I guess im not looking to upgrade either.. just add nice glass and a nice bipod to it and id be set.
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« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2004, 10:22:34 AM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by TheCrow</i>
<br />The gunshow was a little strange for me.  There were lots of pre-ban stuff, but it seemed everyone was trying to rip people off at the last minute.  I saw a Steyr SPP for $2500!!!  It is really sad that fellow gun people are are trying to screw other gun people (and not in a fun way...)

I got that Savage 110FP in .308 with a 3-9X40 Leupold scope, mounts, sling, and Harris bipod for $550.  The trigger is very sweet.

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Holy crap!!!<<<<<creaming himself
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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2004, 12:03:28 PM »
I noticed that 10FP at a Wal-Mart myself. Tempting...

The "upgrades" are numerous.  You tend to have a larger selection of quality mount bases (although now pretty much every good company makes Savage bases), stocks, barrels, bolt handles, triggers, etc.

It's really only because the 700 is so ubiquitous, but the Savage is enjoying a lot of popularity.
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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2004, 04:00:41 PM »
Can I order a pre-ban upper right now if I don't have a lower? Reason I ask is because it will take RRA a sum total of about 4-6 weeks to make and ship my upper that I want, but I need it here in time to make my rifle on the 13th. So without a lower, I'm assuming it would be legal to purchase the upper, correct? If so, I'm going to give them a call either tonight, or tomorrow and place my order. [:D] Also, this is not a "made before the ban" upper, but it should get to me just days before the ban ends, so there should be no problem. Cost should run me around $475 chromed and shipped, complete with B/BC/CH. [:D]
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« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2004, 05:46:09 PM »
Armalite is taking orders on uppers for when the ban expires.  It's in case they make a new one right away.
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« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2004, 06:21:49 PM »
Vell got a hold of me, and I'll be calling RRA tomorrow afternoon to order my upper. [:D]
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« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2004, 06:59:50 AM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Paco</i>
<br />So you think that preban AR15 uppers will be LESS expensive in September than they are now?  Or did I misunderstand you?

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No you misunderstood part of what I was saying.  Since you can buy pre-ban uppers brand new right now the prices will not change on those items.  It's the restricted items that people are tyring to dump.  Recievers, high cap mags, drum mags, etc.  Uppers, stocks, crap like that will not be affected price wise.

Oh and I don't think the demand for "pre-ban" uppers will go up much.  Anyone who's wanting one will most likely have already purchased one kind of like someone else on the forums who's stockpiled his already. [;)]

Basher, there's nothing stopping you from ordering you upper right now.  Uppers are not restricted to buy, just to install on your "post-ban" lower for the time being.
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« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2004, 04:44:47 PM »
Harley, thanks. I gave Vell a call, and he straightened that out for me. [:D] I just called RRA, but with the time difference between AZ and IL, they're closed. [:(] So I'll have to call them tomorrow on lunch break.

I DID, however, just get my RRA 6 position stock in the mail, and boy-oh-boy is it making me a rather unpatient individual. [:D] Very nice quality to it all. Now I just need to find a chrome spring so that I won't have to replace the spring as soon!
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« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2004, 09:28:57 PM »
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