Tan or Multicam?

[INFIDEL]

Sometimes I say that.... And y'all..... Sorry. 

lol no worries bro.

[Mandals]

You all talk about Multicam as if it is as out of place in the desert as woodland is.

lolwut? Only 1 person mentioned that (THEY) would choose tan over MC for the desert. I was biased in my mind set of what (I) think looks good together. and well no one else mentioned MC not being good for the desert. so im not sure where the "You all" comes in.

They are expensive indeed I knew that when I looked at them but why I like them is cause I have bad knees and I currently use paintball knee pads but after a long day they leave big ass raspberries on my knees that hurt! With these pants the knew pads wont always be rubbing against my knees. I do like 5.11 though they make awesome stuff I look around there site all the time.

[Mandals]

http://www.511tactical.com/All-Products/Pants/TDU-Pants/MultiCam-TDU-Pant.html

Can you put knee pads in these pants?!?!?

"Double knee accepts kneepads"

[drummerace]

They are expensive indeed I knew that when I looked at them but why I like them is cause I have bad knees and I currently use paintball knee pads but after a long day they leave big ass raspberries on my knees that hurt! With these pants the knew pads wont always be rubbing against my knees. I do like 5.11 though they make awesome stuff I look around there site all the time.

Why don't you buy them separately? Cost less, gives you option, and just as effective. Majority of people just do that. You save a good 100-150 dollars.

[Fresnel]

http://www.511tactical.com/All-Products/Pants/TDU-Pants/MultiCam-TDU-Pant.html

Can you put knee pads in these pants?!?!?

"Double knee accepts kneepads"

Yes you can. When I first started out in airsoft, I didn't have camo, so I just wore flat tan, and I slipped the 5.11 kneepad inserts I had laying around into my 5.11 Original Tac Pants, and I haven't found a kneepad that worked quite as well since. If my cammies had kneepad pockets, those things would be in there right now. They don't have a hard face on them, but so long as you don't drop from a dead run into a knee-slide and land right on a corner of a rock or something, you'll be fine.

[Fresnel]

I go for the pmc look, but I just picked up some Khaki colored pants from JC penny and some green or tan polo's for when it gets hotter.

I don't see the purpose for extreme Camo clothing unless you're going for a sneaky sniper approach, we aren't engaging at ranges where Camo is crucial if you're moving alot . I would like to get those Truspec type underarmor bdu's with the breathable mesh in black sometime before summer though.

I know people will disagree with me about the practicality of Camo, it serves its purpose, I'd go with comfort over looks.

You might be surprised at how comfortable modern camo clothing is. If you're buying Tru-Spec or Propper civilianized BDUs, they're not bad, but I got a set of FROGs a while back, and they're incredibly soft and comfortable. My only complaint is that the slash pockets are way too shallow, but Marines aren't allowed to use their pockets anyway.

Also, Under Body Armor Combat Shirts (UBACS) are a great thing, I fully recommend them.

[theFlyingTrumpet]

Yeah I was going to mention the whole "too close for camo to help" as I mostly agree with that, but I've definitely seen a good amount of times where camo has saved some butts.  Sasco especially. Camo can also really help when setting up ambushes.   

[deathbydanish]

I go for the pmc look, but I just picked up some Khaki colored pants from JC penny and some green or tan polo's for when it gets hotter.

I don't see the purpose for extreme Camo clothing unless you're going for a sneaky sniper approach, we aren't engaging at ranges where Camo is crucial if you're moving alot . I would like to get those Truspec type underarmor bdu's with the breathable mesh in black sometime before summer though.

I know people will disagree with me about the practicality of Camo, it serves its purpose, I'd go with comfort over looks.

Thanks for posting that.

This feels like dejavu but we really need to debunk the myth that in an airsoft game that camo will make you somehow invisible or make you harder to see. Not moving and hiding behind rocks and brush will make you harder to see. You can have the best camo in the world, but when you start moving and are only 30 feet away from your opponent that camo will mean squat.



That was from last weekend's game at papago, it didn't matter that he was wearing woodland in a desert environment, where he positioned himself and the cover he chose kept him from being spotted. I watched him take out a number of people from that spot.

[theFlyingTrumpet]

Very much agreed deathbydanish.

[hyllecool]

Up here in Prescott, at the fields my team play at, camo holds a high tactical advantage... obviously. Our fields are pretty close  quarters, so i say this with experience. The general landscape is desert, but with heavy foliage, and i find that even from even 10ft away, those who wear camo are significantly harder to spot than those without. Even while moving. Therefore i am a huge fan of camo. however, i am not familiar with phoenix area fields, but i assume less foliage, flatter terrain, and correct me if i am wrong. so i would guess camo has a bit less of an advantage. All i am saying is it depends on the fields terrain. Where i play, camo works damn well, therefore i always use it. In terms of multicam vs tan, i use either depending on my mood, and with mc, i run a coyote tan CIRAS and IBH and it looks pretty good IMO

[headhunter]

i  do have to say, if you are looking to stay camofluaged, go with MC. i played with my buddy anf he wore MC and i wore my deserts and we were moving around trying to not be seen and i always got hit.

[sigma85051]

ok look up mulitcam online and find a web site with a bunch or pics in different environments. You will see multicam is build to blend with almost any environment thats why the call it MULTIcam lol. I would say the more mc you have on you the better you will blend in.

[deathbydanish]

Up here in Prescott, at the fields my team play at, camo holds a high tactical advantage... obviously. Our fields are pretty close  quarters, so i say this with experience. The general landscape is desert, but with heavy foliage, and i find that even from even 10ft away, those who wear camo are significantly harder to spot than those without. Even while moving. Therefore i am a huge fan of camo. however, i am not familiar with phoenix area fields, but i assume less foliage, flatter terrain, and correct me if i am wrong. so i would guess camo has a bit less of an advantage. All i am saying is it depends on the fields terrain. Where i play, camo works damn well, therefore i always use it. In terms of multicam vs tan, i use either depending on my mood, and with mc, i run a coyote tan CIRAS and IBH and it looks pretty good IMO

I've been up to Prescott for games before, it sounds more like the lighting or lack thereof is what's making it harder for you to spot moving people.



Find the right rock and the right amount of shade, and even a dork like me in ACU would be hard to spot. I'm fairly sure that's up in a Prescott AO, that or Strawberry.

[hyllecool]

Up here in Prescott, at the fields my team play at, camo holds a high tactical advantage... obviously. Our fields are pretty close  quarters, so i say this with experience. The general landscape is desert, but with heavy foliage, and i find that even from even 10ft away, those who wear camo are significantly harder to spot than those without. Even while moving. Therefore i am a huge fan of camo. however, i am not familiar with phoenix area fields, but i assume less foliage, flatter terrain, and correct me if i am wrong. so i would guess camo has a bit less of an advantage. All i am saying is it depends on the fields terrain. Where i play, camo works damn well, therefore i always use it. In terms of multicam vs tan, i use either depending on my mood, and with mc, i run a coyote tan CIRAS and IBH and it looks pretty good IMO

I've been up to Prescott for games before, it sounds more like the lighting or lack thereof is what's making it harder for you to spot moving people.


Find the right rock and the right amount of shade, and even a dork like me in ACU would be hard to spot. I'm fairly sure that's up in a Prescott AO, that or Strawberry.

Lighting for sure plays a  factor. We play morning-midday and obviously the darker it gets, the harder it is to spot people, especially those who wear camo. All im trying to say is where i play, i find wearing camo definitely has its advantage. Often times i spot fellow team mates just by the vibrant red and yellow team patch we wear, otherwise i wouldnt have seen them. But with types of camo, they all essentially do the same thing in terms of disrupting the human figure. My team runs multicam, and im more partial to multicam. I know it works well, but for those who dont believe in camo for airsoft, thats fine, thats just how i like to play, and it works for me.

[deathbydanish]

Up here in Prescott, at the fields my team play at, camo holds a high tactical advantage... obviously. Our fields are pretty close  quarters, so i say this with experience. The general landscape is desert, but with heavy foliage, and i find that even from even 10ft away, those who wear camo are significantly harder to spot than those without. Even while moving. Therefore i am a huge fan of camo. however, i am not familiar with phoenix area fields, but i assume less foliage, flatter terrain, and correct me if i am wrong. so i would guess camo has a bit less of an advantage. All i am saying is it depends on the fields terrain. Where i play, camo works damn well, therefore i always use it. In terms of multicam vs tan, i use either depending on my mood, and with mc, i run a coyote tan CIRAS and IBH and it looks pretty good IMO

I've been up to Prescott for games before, it sounds more like the lighting or lack thereof is what's making it harder for you to spot moving people.


Find the right rock and the right amount of shade, and even a dork like me in ACU would be hard to spot. I'm fairly sure that's up in a Prescott AO, that or Strawberry.

Lighting for sure plays a  factor. We play morning-midday and obviously the darker it gets, the harder it is to spot people, especially those who wear camo. All im trying to say is where i play, i find wearing camo definitely has its advantage. Often times i spot fellow team mates just by the vibrant red and yellow team patch we wear, otherwise i wouldnt have seen them. But with types of camo, they all essentially do the same thing in terms of disrupting the human figure. My team runs multicam, and im more partial to multicam. I know it works well, but for those who dont believe in camo for airsoft, thats fine, thats just how i like to play, and it works for me.

It doesn't appear to do that with ACU lol!

During those Prescott/Strawberry games that I was wearing ACU where I got stuck out in the open, I was described as a big alfalfa colored blob running around the field. Anyway back on topic the whole argument here was that newer players seem to think camo is a license to be careless with cover and position, it isn't. If you are smart about movement and positioning then I agree it will help, but lets get one thing straight, a guy in jeans and a t-shirt who moves intelligently through a field and uses cover and concealment wisely will always get the drop on someone wearing camo that lacks situational awareness and runs around out in the open like a chicken with its head cut off.