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Offline busta_cap

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« on: October 09, 2003, 10:57:10 AM »
Well, why dont you look at those Tokyo Mauri Prosight2's, from what i know they are aimpoint replicas and they arent too bad price wise.
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2003, 11:02:28 AM »
Guarder makes one also, go to airsoftextreme.com they sell for $100.00. I have one and I really like it
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2003, 11:08:55 AM »
Guys, he's asking about a replica of the Trijicon Reflex, NOT an Aimpoint copy.  Everyone knows there are at least a half dozen copies of the Aimpoint (TGS, Guarder, Marui), but the Trijocon Reflex is an entirely different scope.

Pheonix, to answer your question, AFAIK, there is no copy of the actual Trijicon Reflex sight.  To clarify, AFAIK, the Reflex sight by Trijicon is not an "ACOG" - that's an entirely different $700+ optic, while the Trijocon Reflex is about $300.  However, there is a decent Trijocon AGOG TA01NSN copy out for about $150-200 IIRC.
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2003, 12:25:22 PM »
ACOG


Reflex


Aimpoint


EOTech HOLOsight


Those are the most common optics found on the US M4s, M16s etc.  Paco is right when he says the ACOG and reflex are different sights, and why people think all red dots are reflex sights is beyond me!  Note that the ACOG is a 4x mag with illuminated reticle.  The replica ACOG is not illuminated, but has regualr crosshairs.  Good for the exterior look ,but no for function.  Your best bet is an Aimpoint replica.
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2003, 01:13:29 PM »
I just got an ACOG replica scope from AE. It is okay. Does not even compare with a real one though. It's first combat run will be the game this Saturday. I will let you guys know more after that.
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2003, 06:13:49 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Pheonix, to answer your question, AFAIK, there is no copy of the actual Trijicon Reflex sight. To clarify, AFAIK, the Reflex sight by Trijicon is not an "ACOG" - that's an entirely different $700+ optic, while the Trijocon Reflex is about $300. However, there is a decent Trijocon AGOG TA01NSN copy out for about $150-200 IIRC.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

I have a Trijicon Reflex II, and interestingly enough, it says, "Trijicon ACOG" on the top. It's a little wierd that it says this, but maybe it is just a name that they have started to slap on other models they make. It stands for Advanced Combat Optical Gunsight, so maybe they think it applies to more than one sight (I know it doesn't make much sense, but I'm just throwing ideas out there [:P])
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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2003, 06:39:34 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Wolf</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Pheonix, to answer your question, AFAIK, there is no copy of the actual Trijicon Reflex sight. To clarify, AFAIK, the Reflex sight by Trijicon is not an "ACOG" - that's an entirely different $700+ optic, while the Trijocon Reflex is about $300. However, there is a decent Trijocon AGOG TA01NSN copy out for about $150-200 IIRC.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

I have a Trijicon Reflex II, and interestingly enough, it says, "Trijicon ACOG" on the top. It's a little wierd that it says this, but maybe it is just a name that they have started to slap on other models they make. It stands for Advanced Combat Optical Gunsight, so maybe they think it applies to more than one sight (I know it doesn't make much sense, but I'm just throwing ideas out there [:P])

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Right Wolf.  Due to its definition, Trijicon uses it to describe their entire line od optics intended for combat use.  The definition still stands, however, that they are two different sights.  The key word here is "refelx", not ACOG.  

Also note, the Reflex requires no batteries.  

Wolf, how is that thing working out for you?  I was thinking about getting one, but decided on the EOTech instead, due to the brightness settings.  I foound that unless already welded, the amber reticle (which can be quite dim at times), was a slight more difficult to acquire.  The Huge, Bright "halo" style reticle of the HOLOsight is RIGHT THERE!  No hunting for it, and it never gets lost in the sight picture.  Sure, the Reflex can be gotten used to, but why bother?  Like I always say, "if you need to get used to it, find something better!"  This applies to gear only, as there are several options for each piece.
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2003, 07:41:57 PM »
Thx for the help gents. I was hoping, but since I don't have 700 or so dollars to toss around, I'm kinda screwed. Ah well, such is the nature of life. If only beauty was cheaper (refering to the opposite sex or airsoft, what a conundrum) hehe!
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2003, 01:21:22 AM »
Of the 4 pics I posted, the only optic over 400 is the 4x32 ACOG.  Aimpoints can be had for around 200-250, Reflex for 200, and the EOTech (my favorite) for around 280 for less expensive models.  Of course, the ACOG 4x32 will run you about 800 depending on where you get it.  Try Ebay, I have seen some EOTech 552's for 180 bux.  Quite a steal indeed!
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2003, 11:09:36 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Wolf, how is that thing working out for you? I was thinking about getting one, but decided on the EOTech instead, due to the brightness settings. I foound that unless already welded, the amber reticle (which can be quite dim at times), was a slight more difficult to acquire. The Huge, Bright "halo" style reticle of the HOLOsight is RIGHT THERE! No hunting for it, and it never gets lost in the sight picture. Sure, the Reflex can be gotten used to, but why bother? Like I always say, "if you need to get used to it, find something better!" This applies to gear only, as there are several options for each piece.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

 It's working out great (I'll update you once I get my RIS and can try it out). The reticle can appear small if you are holding the sight close to your face, but if you hold it out a little (around the distance it would be on an M4) then the reticle is easy to aquire. Other nice features include: the polarization filter is adjustable, and it functions as a cheap lens protector ($14 a piece); the gray finish; the reticle is very solid and clear; the amber color of the reticle works well; and the size of the reticle makes it easy to aquire. If you looked through a reflex and the reticle appeared dim, it is probably because the polarization filter was adjusted too low, or you were in the dark. Reflex's are designed to provide the minimum amount of light needed for night operations (they don't want you screwing up your natural night vision, so once your eyes adjust, the reticle appears brighter) If I decide to sell it I'll let you know [:P] (you know me, I go through gear like Kyle).

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Of the 4 pics I posted, the only optic over 400 is the 4x32 ACOG. Aimpoints can be had for around 200-250, Reflex for 200, and the EOTech (my favorite) for around 280 for less expensive models. Of course, the ACOG 4x32 will run you about 800 depending on where you get it. Try Ebay, I have seen some EOTech 552's for 180 bux. Quite a steal indeed!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
 I'm guessing you are talking about used sights, right? Reflex's cost around $700 new (for the Reflex II with a Flattop Mount anyway) but if you get them used, you can usually get them for $200-$300.
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2003, 07:38:15 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally Posted by Wolf<br />I'm guessing you are talking about used sights, right? Reflex's cost around $700 new (for the Reflex II with a Flattop Mount anyway) but if you get them used, you can usually get them for $200-$300.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Right.  All of the prices quoted are the cheaper prices, mostly used.  You are definitely right about the cost of the Reflex!  Honestly, I might consider a used optic, considering it was well-maintained.  To me, 100 bux in my pocket is worth it not being brand new.  Since this is airsoft, and it most likely will not be used on any steel within the near future, this is most likely the route I will go (used EOTech).
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2003, 08:26:28 AM »
Does anybody make a cheap mock-up like the Aimpoints, or would I actually have to pay the insane 250-300 dollars for one. Second, where would be the best place to buy one, a surplus store or sporting goods place?
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