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General Airsoft Discussion /
« on: February 03, 2007, 06:24:52 AM »
EDIT : hm ive got better thoughts on this, will repost after I've had some sleep 
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General Airsoft Discussion /
« on: October 27, 2006, 04:42:51 AM »
okay this is a little OT but what exactly does co-witness mean? Ive been looking for the definition since I saw it in similar article about sights.
Does it mean that both iron sights and optics line up to the same spot?
Does it mean that both iron sights and optics line up to the same spot?
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General Airsoft Discussion /
« on: October 27, 2006, 04:26:31 AM »
I don't work for them either, but I have to back up the APD pimping.
I didnt know about APD at all when I first got into airsoft and started showing up here. Only found out about the store accidentally when someone here asked a G36 question. Most of what the OP said is true. It is one of two high end stores in town along with Soft Air Depot (which I only just found out about too) and I still prefer APD. Prices are equal or cheaper to online, JT has a slightly better range for pistols but as far as high end, low end, parts i.e systema, bdus and vests, they have it all, selection as well as price.
Actually I probably wouldnt have started off with a crappy BE AUG that I now really have no use for, even for upgrading if I'd known a local store that I could have gone to, just for quickly and easily comparing low end to high end. I've sent a few people to APD who wanted to check out CA stuff (especially G36's). Fell in love with the CA G36 externals minute I saw it and knew which direction I was going
APD reps (well rep, that's my only complaint, not enough airsoft!) have been just as helpful and knowledgeable as our local JT guys have been. I made a post on our own airsoft forum about stores recently and I put APD at the top of the list too. Its the best store in town, if you havent been there and you're local, you really ought to
I didnt know about APD at all when I first got into airsoft and started showing up here. Only found out about the store accidentally when someone here asked a G36 question. Most of what the OP said is true. It is one of two high end stores in town along with Soft Air Depot (which I only just found out about too) and I still prefer APD. Prices are equal or cheaper to online, JT has a slightly better range for pistols but as far as high end, low end, parts i.e systema, bdus and vests, they have it all, selection as well as price.
Actually I probably wouldnt have started off with a crappy BE AUG that I now really have no use for, even for upgrading if I'd known a local store that I could have gone to, just for quickly and easily comparing low end to high end. I've sent a few people to APD who wanted to check out CA stuff (especially G36's). Fell in love with the CA G36 externals minute I saw it and knew which direction I was going
APD reps (well rep, that's my only complaint, not enough airsoft!) have been just as helpful and knowledgeable as our local JT guys have been. I made a post on our own airsoft forum about stores recently and I put APD at the top of the list too. Its the best store in town, if you havent been there and you're local, you really ought to
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General Airsoft Discussion /
« on: October 16, 2006, 03:08:47 AM »
You guys are going more than a little overboard here. First of all, nobody on tihs thread is saying they want to turn up in a tshirt and sneakers. You're making that assumption on your own.
On one hand you have a post from somebody who says no one will get turned away because they don't have a particular pattern and there is a variety of guns etc etc and right after that "a different type of drum mag is bullshit go eff yourself". We can argue all about technicalities till the cows come home, but regardless of whatever your personal poison of "legit" is, it is this kind of attitude that is the real problem.
So how is a different drum mag unacceptable but someone running around with a "different" kind of gun, P90, FAMAS (love them or hate them) or even a G36 okay? I have to admit I don't know the intricate differences between the 74 and the 47 drum mags but if outwardly they look the same but with a different interface then what is the problem? You're already airsofting, however "legit" you are striving to be, you're running a gun that shoots plastic BB's, there already is an element of make believe whether you like to admit it or not. I don't see drum mags often at stores either, maybe Fish didn't have a chance to get the proper mag for his gun. Sounds like you guys are more concerned with the gear than what type of player the player is.
Personally, if I was to be a real stickler for milsim, I wouldnt turn up wearing old style camo since it is no longer "realistic".
On one hand you have a post from somebody who says no one will get turned away because they don't have a particular pattern and there is a variety of guns etc etc and right after that "a different type of drum mag is bullshit go eff yourself". We can argue all about technicalities till the cows come home, but regardless of whatever your personal poison of "legit" is, it is this kind of attitude that is the real problem.
So how is a different drum mag unacceptable but someone running around with a "different" kind of gun, P90, FAMAS (love them or hate them) or even a G36 okay? I have to admit I don't know the intricate differences between the 74 and the 47 drum mags but if outwardly they look the same but with a different interface then what is the problem? You're already airsofting, however "legit" you are striving to be, you're running a gun that shoots plastic BB's, there already is an element of make believe whether you like to admit it or not. I don't see drum mags often at stores either, maybe Fish didn't have a chance to get the proper mag for his gun. Sounds like you guys are more concerned with the gear than what type of player the player is.
Personally, if I was to be a real stickler for milsim, I wouldnt turn up wearing old style camo since it is no longer "realistic".
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General Airsoft Discussion /
« on: October 14, 2006, 06:28:09 PM »Quote from: "Fish"
Quote from: "studdermonkey"my opinion matters to me and only me. Nobody else.
I think that it's easier said than done.
I showed up to a game, with my AK and drum mag. And I got so much sh!t about it. And I'm not the kind of person who would be effected by that, but that was a lot of sh!t everyone gave me.
"Oh, fish, WTF?? what's up with that f*cking drum mag"
"Dude, is that a f*cking drum mag!?"
"WTF?"
"That looks so gay"
*load of dirty looks*
Now I know it wasn't exactly the sexiest gun, but the only reason I got sh!t, is because it wasn't milsim. If the setup could be done in real life, I doubt anyone would say anything.
I must say I enjoy dressing up for events, it's sometimes the funnest part. Reasently I have become very interested in impressions. I do agree though that milsim shouldn't be required, I personaly would prefer it, because I already have gear and it's nice to play with everyone who is serious about the sport. But some people just can't get that, and they shouldn't be excluded from games. Also, I F*CKING HATE THE NEW, "NO HICAP RULE" which is now getting more popular . That's worse than anything else.
You know, of all the things to be nazi about. A drum mag shouldnt be one of them. I can understand jeans and tshirt, or kids running around bunny hopping like in Quake but seriously, a drum mag CAN be done in real life. There is no reason why there should be some milsim bs drama about it. I know someone irl who has been saving to buy an real steel romanian AK and the first thing he is getting is a drum mag. Why? who wouldnt want more bullets. It may not be the most practical thing weight wise and it may be rare but it *can* be done.
As for the no hi-cap rule, its not the ridiculous amounts of extra ammo that bugs me about them, it's the rattle. Running around with a gun that sounds like you're running around with a big bag of shaker fries attached to your gun is a real killjoy for me, milsim or not lol. Hi caps are better suited for more loose and fun speedball or spray and pray type games though. Everything has their place.
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General Airsoft Discussion /
« on: October 14, 2006, 02:59:11 PM »
If you guys wanna roll playing beginnner guns only. I'm up for it, I see low end gunning and high end as just different styles of play. PM me with details.
I'm suprised JT isn't doing more to host beginner type games because I'm sure they have trouble moving those guns lol.
I'm suprised JT isn't doing more to host beginner type games because I'm sure they have trouble moving those guns lol.
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General Airsoft Discussion /
« on: October 14, 2006, 02:54:13 PM »
This is something I've felt for awhile ever since I first started showing up here and the reason I'm not as involved even though now I have opportunity to be. Even if it is true that milsim isn't "Forced" at games etc, the attitude here is has a prevalent feel of "don't show up at all unless you have full gear, M4 or Armalite" etc. For example I run an MP5 (until I get a proper longgun) + woodland BDU's, am I going to be turned away if I showed up because I'm not wearing MARPAT and woodland isnt issue anymore, and get a real gun you goddamn noob?
I am not against milsim. Milsim is what attracted me to airsoft and is my end goal gear wise. However the way a lot of you carry on, you might as well rename his place to milsim arizona, not airsoft arizona. That is a decision that might have to be made soon judging by this post. Like people have said, Airsoft are people running around with airsoft guns shooting at each other. You can play copsim, terrorist sim, whatever. Why does milsim have to be exclusive? That would be just as bad as only playing CQB swatsim forever. Wouldn't it get boring?
I prefer to think of Airsoft as the medium, not milsim. I used to do milsim with paintball back in the day when it was underground and our only avenue of doing so. Milsim is incredibly fun and incredibly satisfying, but airsoft wise, how do you think people will work up to that point. Other playing styles allow you to get playing sooner and get involved and make further investment gear wise.
Right now I play with a group that has specifically requested that we do not invite anyone from AA, I think that's a bit harsh since I think the problem is, do not invite any hardcore milsim guys from AA who will give you crap about your gear or playing style. Perhaps make up different forums for milsim, copsim, fantasy/counterstrike/gaming style whatever. That would be a start. It would be nice if one day this place represented AIRSOFT ARIZONA, as opposed to just milsim arizona. Until then, I'll only come here for anything related to milsim.
I am not against milsim. Milsim is what attracted me to airsoft and is my end goal gear wise. However the way a lot of you carry on, you might as well rename his place to milsim arizona, not airsoft arizona. That is a decision that might have to be made soon judging by this post. Like people have said, Airsoft are people running around with airsoft guns shooting at each other. You can play copsim, terrorist sim, whatever. Why does milsim have to be exclusive? That would be just as bad as only playing CQB swatsim forever. Wouldn't it get boring?
I prefer to think of Airsoft as the medium, not milsim. I used to do milsim with paintball back in the day when it was underground and our only avenue of doing so. Milsim is incredibly fun and incredibly satisfying, but airsoft wise, how do you think people will work up to that point. Other playing styles allow you to get playing sooner and get involved and make further investment gear wise.
Right now I play with a group that has specifically requested that we do not invite anyone from AA, I think that's a bit harsh since I think the problem is, do not invite any hardcore milsim guys from AA who will give you crap about your gear or playing style. Perhaps make up different forums for milsim, copsim, fantasy/counterstrike/gaming style whatever. That would be a start. It would be nice if one day this place represented AIRSOFT ARIZONA, as opposed to just milsim arizona. Until then, I'll only come here for anything related to milsim.
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Airsoft Items FOR SALE / For Sale : Guarder MP5 flashlight handguard
« on: October 08, 2006, 11:26:57 AM »
Asking $20 obo. Never used. Will throw in flashlight spacer too (if your light won't fit). Add $5 for shipping if you'd rather I send it.
Meeting at JT Tempe is probably best, can go up to Scottsdale JT Or Softair Depot
Meeting at JT Tempe is probably best, can go up to Scottsdale JT Or Softair Depot
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AEG's /
« on: October 03, 2006, 02:08:34 PM »Quote from: "Popapalooza"
Quote from: "fathamburger"Vince is full of s***, that's the new Cyma 033. Y'all didn't believe Cyma was taking over Airsoft
umm I don't know Vince personally but I can definatley say he isn't full of s***.
lol man it was a joke
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AEG's /
« on: September 27, 2006, 07:22:28 PM »
Vince is full of shit, that's the new Cyma 033. Y'all didn't believe Cyma was taking over Airsoft
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Airsoft Equipment Specials / globe product supply wholesale
« on: September 22, 2006, 12:22:03 PM »
http://www.wholesalecentral.com/globepr ... /store.cfm
This is a wholesale place, but they will sell to anyone as long as you have a high enough order. I've read on Airsoft Retreat that they ship from the US (and they have a US address
), but I'm double verifying this.
They mostly have low end stuff but there are a couple of interesting things. They have the new BE G36K and SL8's as well as the Cyma metal AK that shoots 320. Minimum order $100, but there is a low order fee of $20 unless you go over $160. I'm mainly interested in an SL8 as well as a tac vest and probably some plastic targets and one of those SPAS shotties.
Anyone else want to go in with me? or maybe we can do a group JT order.
EDIT : their warehouse is the also based out of the US, so the stock has already cleared customs.
This is a wholesale place, but they will sell to anyone as long as you have a high enough order. I've read on Airsoft Retreat that they ship from the US (and they have a US address
), but I'm double verifying this.They mostly have low end stuff but there are a couple of interesting things. They have the new BE G36K and SL8's as well as the Cyma metal AK that shoots 320. Minimum order $100, but there is a low order fee of $20 unless you go over $160. I'm mainly interested in an SL8 as well as a tac vest and probably some plastic targets and one of those SPAS shotties.
Anyone else want to go in with me? or maybe we can do a group JT order.
EDIT : their warehouse is the also based out of the US, so the stock has already cleared customs.
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Airsoft Items FOR SALE / hi cap mag
« on: September 21, 2006, 11:31:43 PM »
I'm interested in the hi-cap mag. CA right?