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Airsoft Hardware => Accessories & Gear => Topic started by: delta_echo on May 05, 2005, 04:29:56 PM
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A5M-O “ASMO†Airsoft Hand Grenade
Alright, I ordered one Flashbang and one Lemon grenade from www.asmoairsoft.com (http://www.asmoairsoft.com). For pics, go straight to their website under “storeâ€. The shipping was a little slow, but definitely not too bad. I paid through paypal and it took four days before my order shipped and another five to get to me. The company didn’t charge me extra for shipping, though, which is nice (i.e. the price you see on the site per item is what it’ll cost to get to you – no added shipping charges).
First Impressions:
It was obvious just picking them up that these weren’t made in some sweatshop – nope they were made with basic household items in someone’s living room. The body was made out of very thin plastic. I quickly realized that the flashbang was a converted
“wonder bubbles†container. Overall, I was just thinking to myself: “At least they were only six bucks . . .â€
Functionality:
It took me probably five minutes to figure out how the thing operated. The instructions were minimally helpful and definitely need illustrative photos. The actual working device that sets off the cap is located on the inside on the body. The “caps†in reference here are simply the six-shot rings used in toy cap guns. A single cap (NOT a set of six) is placed on a brass stud while the “firing plate†is held back. The cap can be difficult to get on, and with the lemon grenade I had to use needle-nose pliers to position the cap in such a way that I could then push down firmly on it. Once the cap is securely placed on the stud, the firing plate is pulled all the way down (roughly 180 degrees) and the retaining mechanism is moved forward to catch the plate. The actual “pull pin†which resembles that of a real grenade pull pin is then slid into the pre-drilled slot. The grenade is now armed and safe to carry.
So, how did it work? Well, the first thing I wanted to test was whether the grenade might go off unexpectedly on your person. With the pull pin in, I could toss the thing in the air, throw it against the ground – all without anything happening – which is obviously very good. I then pulled the pin and tried to get the grenade to go off by a simple throwing motion. Unless I tried to throw it very hard (as in as hard as I could) , I never ecountered a problem with the device going off prematurely. That being said, it also never failed to go off as soon as it hit the ground (once again read: very good). So it functions as it should.
Pros:
-Cheap. If I were to lose track of one or two of these during a game, I wouldn’t
feel any great loss.
- They function great, I never had a misfire as long as the cap was securely put in place.
- The grenade are reusable and the caps can be bought just about anywhere. You get 192 “shots†for about $2.
- As far as grenade goes, these are really safe. The caps are loud, but not loud enough to hurt, nor do the have any potential of igniting their surroundings as all the “blast†is contained in the body. On top of that, I could not discern any “shrapnel†coming out when the cap when off.
Cons:
-The biggest problem I have is aesthetic: the paint does not stay on at all. A few throws, and, no kidding, a quarter of the paint has fallen off! Plus, when the paint chips off, it reveals a neon color body underneath!
-The materials used are pretty cheap looking. If they hold up OK, I don’t have a problem, but this remains to be seen.
- The grenades themselves are about 2/3 the size of the real thing.
I will definitely have to take these to a few games before I give a final verdict. As I am far more for function than aesthetics, I would recommend the item at this time. Something must be done about the paint job, but this is easy enough to fix with a can of plastic primer and your favorite color.
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Thanks for the review. Do you think it would be possible to transplant or copy the working parts into a nicely built replica flashbang?
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Thanks for the review. Do you think it would be possible to transplant or copy the working parts into a nicely built replica flashbang?
Yeah. I was really surprised at how simple the design was. In fact you could probably mirror it with parts you could obtain at a hardware store.
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The reason they took so long to ship, was the mechanism was backordered, or the parts to make it. The owner of the store is a really cool guy. The paint does flake off, but get some Krylon paint and paint it over again.
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Try painting them with Krylon Fusion paint. If you cant find a color you like, use any neutral color Fusion paint, then follow with whatever color you want.
Nice review so far, but how about some pics!
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I ordered 3 grenades and two flashbangs, they shipped on Monday, hope they are here in time for this Sat.
Delta were they loud (you can hear them over the sound of firing and AEG?)
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Sounds good i think i am goign to order a few, Does it come with caps?
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Thanks Delta....strong work.
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I just got two of the flashbangs, and I must have ordered them when everything was in stock, I ordered them this past sunday and they arrived here today. I definately must agree with you on the paint issue, as i threw mine once and notices alot of blue plastic showing. The sound it makes is fairly loud, if it went off near you while you were shooting an aeg you would be able to hear it.
About the body, like Delta said they are very light as they are made of a bubble container, also there is a small piece of like sheet wood that is involed with the firing mechanism that I'm not too sure will hold up.
Just a warning on the side, my friend bought a baseball grenade with me, and while in the pictures that looks bigger than the flashbangs its not.
I think thats all I have too say, but I'd say for the price these cost even if they end up not holding up very well they seem to be worth the 6$.
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I ordered 3 grenades and two flashbangs, they shipped on Monday, hope they are here in time for this Sat.
Delta were they loud (you can hear them over the sound of firing and AEG?)
They were as loud as a normal cap gun :P . Sorry can't really compare it to anything else. But yeah, as long as you're within, say, 15 ft. I imagine you could hear it fine over a normal AEG.
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I was thinking about makeing a metal version of it, and just using the mechanism inside. I'd use lightweight aluminum, but that's still a lot stronger than the plastic one.
But...
In my testing of them, I threw them at a wall, and they withstood several blows before finally cracking (JB Weld fixed that).
Down the road, you may notice that the spoon get's a little loose. Just epoxy the nut in place, and then locktite the screw. That way it'll stay perfect.
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I got one today. I got the baseball version for $8. Overall, not bad. I agree with delta-echo review. However I did have two explosions in my hand right after I pulled the pin. I adjusted the bend of the retaining arm thingy a bit and it seemed to solve that problem. I will definitely be spraying the Krylon Fusion paint to them like Christian suggested.
Mine will get a thorough testing under fire this weekend. We'll see how it holds up.
Here are some quick pics I took for size comparison. Note how much paint has flaked off already.
(http://img114.echo.cx/img114/5410/dsc009229nw.jpg)
(http://img114.echo.cx/img114/6557/dsc009206vv.jpg)
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Is that a goddamn NYTANEON! frag pouch, Mikey? I thought you got rid of all that crap!:lol:
You need to take some comparison shots with REAL M67s in there, my friend! I can hook you up, you know, for photo purposes.;)
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That whole leg rig is NYTANEON! man.
Go BLACKHAWK!!
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How far can you throw one?
Or how far can one be thrown?
Hows the weight?
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Here's the field use review:
Used the flashbangs (as grenades) and the baseball grenades.
I got a few kills with them, they are (as Delta pointed out) difficult to arm, and I did bring a pair of needle nose pliers to use (Mikey has a technique for loading them by hand... patent pending).
I was able to throw them at least 20yrds, I have girlie arms BUT Greg was able to toss one approximately 35yrd... (Greg correct me if I'm wrong).
Pro's: Its cool that they go 'Bang'
Cons: Break easy (I cracked one off a fence post)
: Difficult to find (Mikey mentioned about painting them orange)
: Sometimes they go off when you pull the pin and kill you right before you are going to throw it into a building killing everybody inside winning the day... but instead it goes pop in your hand and people laugh at you as you leave the field :(
I would recommend the rubber grenades. I've got a chirp circuit made (for locating the grenade), so once I get some I'll test it out.
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Here's the field use review:
Used the flashbangs (as grenades) and the baseball grenades.
I got a few kills with them, they are (as Delta pointed out) difficult to arm, and I did bring a pair of needle nose pliers to use (Mikey has a technique for loading them by hand... patent pending).
I was able to throw them at least 20yrds, I have girlie arms BUT Greg was able to toss one approximately 35yrd... (Greg correct me if I'm wrong).
Pro's: Its cool that they go 'Bang'
Cons: Break easy (I cracked one off a fence post)
: Difficult to find (Mikey mentioned about painting them orange)
: Sometimes they go off when you pull the pin and kill you right before you are going to throw it into a building killing everybody inside winning the day... but instead it goes pop in your hand and people laugh at you as you leave the field :(
I would recommend the rubber grenades. I've got a chirp circuit made (for locating the grenade), so once I get some I'll test it out.
Andy will you let me know when you have thoes circuts? ill buy some nades with thoes if you want to sell.
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Apparently:
"ASMOAIRSOFT.COM IS SHUTTING DOWN. THIS CLOSURE WILL TAKE EFFECT ON JUNE 10th, 2005. Thank you for a good run of it.
-Asmo"
From their website. It looks like we'll have to get Delta to make us a nice schematic of the mechanism so we can replicate the design. Delta you interested?
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Apparently:
"ASMOAIRSOFT.COM IS SHUTTING DOWN. THIS CLOSURE WILL TAKE EFFECT ON JUNE 10th, 2005. Thank you for a good run of it.
-Asmo"
From their website. It looks like we'll have to get Delta to make us a nice schematic of the mechanism so we can replicate the design. Delta you interested?
Well, I would, but I'm pretty busy putting final touches on the film and getting ready for the academy which I leave for in less than a month (read: alot of exercising and paperwork). Anyone else up to the job? Its a pretty simple mechanism and I know a few guys besides me have them.
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I'm going with the rubber grenades with the chirp circuit locator
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Parts:
Shell:
Miracle Bubbles bottle Shell
Firing Mechanism:
Possibly a small mousetrap?
Small Piece of Sheetwood
Screw to hold wood to Moustrap
Screw with a nut to hold it to the shell
Weight:
Small weight to fit in the bottom 1-1 1/2" diameter depending on the size of your buble container.
Pin:
Not sure what the one on this is but a small piece of melted to a normal keychain would probably work.
And the only tool you would need is a dremel drill to make the holes in the side and the top for the pin.
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Can you take any pictures of the internals?
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Can you take any pictures of the internals?
Yup I'll take some tommorow sometime.
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I know this has been posted before, but the closure was supposed to be temporary, but he got married, so no more store... :(
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I know this has been posted before, but the closure was supposed to be temporary, but he got married, so no more store... :(
About 5 people already said that...
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One person posted what it said on the website you asshole. I simply posted that it was supposed to be temporary but it's not going to reopen ever.