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Re: Credit card fraud from EVIKE
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2012, 10:25:51 PM »
What Xavier said is true, it is highly improbable that that happened because of evike, they aren't #1 airsoft retailer in the country for nothing, like them or not. You can always contact the sales department at evike and they should look into it if you feel that that is necessary. Obviously i can not promise the outcome, just a recommendation. But as a person who knows and experienced what key-loggers, virus's etc. do - your computer being infected seems a lot more probably then theft by the evike personal. I bet my baby (g36c) on that.
Get your computer thoroughly checked through before you make another payment using a card.

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Re: Credit card fraud from EVIKE
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2012, 10:57:21 PM »
Good point about EVIKE having likely used a separate ecommerce service. Their website often crashes during these mystery boxes so they probably outsource a great deal during those occasions. We have all heard these stories about other ecommerce services. Even iTunes was compromised so I guess my anger directly towards EVIKE is not entirely fair. I use an iPad over 3G as according to internet security experts it is the safest form of Internet communication for accessing my patient data and I assumed also ecommerce. There is no virus or key logging on my iPad that could have allowed this to happen. I have no doubt it occurred secondary to the EVIKE transaction but they are as much the victim from these ecommerce criminals as I am.

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Re: Credit card fraud from EVIKE
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2012, 12:33:39 AM »
If you think you are immune to hacking and keylogging because you run a touch screen ipad, you deserve everything you get coming to you, especially if you use it for monetary and other important transactions. Not saying that a keylogger is your problem, but we've been trying to warn you, but you don't seem to want to listen.

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Re: Credit card fraud from EVIKE
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2012, 03:10:55 AM »
If you think you are immune to hacking and keylogging because you run a touch screen ipad, you deserve everything you get coming to you, especially if you use it for monetary and other important transactions. Not saying that a keylogger is your problem, but we've been trying to warn you, but you don't seem to want to listen.

ya, your not safe no matter what you think. If our military can lose sensitive information over thier security systems they have in place that is top dollar, what is your 3g? unhackable?  That and other things.

i would probably start a new and reformat my computer and get a new card with a new bank even haha just to be safe. 

Btw there are some really "smart people" out there. I talk to them every day on the phones at work haha. I'm being sarcastic haha

oh and best of luck.

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Re: Credit card fraud from EVIKE
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2012, 07:22:08 AM »
No offence this wasn't EVIKE more than likely it was a fault in Paypal. It happens more than you would like to know. Paypal's security sucks in comparison. Also Paypal doesn't release the CC information to EVIKE.

With that being said...

You also could have been packet hacked on your own network.
There are so many different ways this could have happened.  Though, the one I am sure is that this wasn't EVIKE.
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Re: Credit card fraud from EVIKE
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2012, 07:49:25 AM »
I would also like to note that I bought a Box of Awesomeness about the same time as you, and my card information has not been compromised.  I have been keeping a close  eye on it too, because I have been double checking my math so I can afford a car that I am looking to buy too.

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Re: Credit card fraud from EVIKE
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2012, 09:10:42 AM »
I sent my Lion Claws registration and on the same day I received fraudulent charges on my AMEX... I'm not blaming John Lu.

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Re: Credit card fraud from EVIKE
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2012, 09:33:54 AM »
This is why I believe the IPAD is not to blame for the credit card info being released.
I have spent a great deal of time and money hiring consultants to set up a secure system by which I am able to access patient information while out of office. As quoted from Charles Brooker Internet security specialist and author of the weekly Charlie's Corner on the Guardian

"There aren't any keylogger viruses for the iPad, or iPod Touch, or iPhone. If you're using them to log in to your bank, or eBay, or PayPal, then you can be completely confident that there aren't any keyloggers watching what you type and sending it to a website somewhere in Russian or China."

The only key loggers possible for the iPad are ones installed on a jail broken iPad which is not possible on my iPad as it is screened daily by our automated security protocols on server and never leaves my side.

Why is it impossible for you all to believe that the transaction with EVIKE caused the compromise of my data? Again after reflection I think it's unfair to blame EVIKE as it was likely the ecommerce service they use but that doesn't eliminate the fact that this credit card has never been used for any transaction other than that one time.

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Re: Credit card fraud from EVIKE
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2012, 09:53:52 AM »
This is why I believe the IPAD is not to blame for the credit card info being released.
I have spent a great deal of time and money hiring consultants to set up a secure system by which I am able to access patient information while out of office. As quoted from Charles Brooker Internet security specialist and author of the weekly Charlie's Corner on the Guardian

"There aren't any keylogger viruses for the iPad, or iPod Touch, or iPhone. If you're using them to log in to your bank, or eBay, or PayPal, then you can be completely confident that there aren't any keyloggers watching what you type and sending it to a website somewhere in Russian or China."

The only key loggers possible for the iPad are ones installed on a jail broken iPad which is not possible on my iPad as it is screened daily by our automated security protocols on server and never leaves my side.

Why is it impossible for you all to believe that the transaction with EVIKE caused the compromise of my data? Again after reflection I think it's unfair to blame EVIKE as it was likely the ecommerce service they use but that doesn't eliminate the fact that this credit card has never been used for any transaction other than that one time.

Oh yea I'm convinced... No fraud from an open 3g network on an iPad. I'M SOLD!!

Guys buy iPad's they are hack proof! Oh wait I have one.. I have been hacked.
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Re: Credit card fraud from EVIKE
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2012, 10:10:16 AM »
Just because some guy somewhere said its foolproof, doesn't make it actually so.

Even the inventor of the Life Lock identity theft prevention system had his identity stolen because he was a golden calf target because of his hubris. Blackhat hackers like going after people for their hubris almost more than anything else.

It is blind faith in technology that people don't understand, and lack of awareness of computer security , that makes hacking so profitable and easy and fun.

These are not theoretical situations. This is not about what ifs. It happens all the time. Otherwise there would be no point in having security professionals in the first place, if everything was already magically secure.

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Re: Credit card fraud from EVIKE
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2012, 10:28:57 AM »
No need to get insulting guys.

Drmalan:  Not accepting it has nothing to do with Evike and everything to do with the technology.  Look at it this way.  If one and only one of your patients contacted you saying they found their medical info online hours after you contacted them, what would you say?

As some who has seen a great many ecommerce sites hacked, your situation doesn't fit.  If you are determined to hold your false belief that your iPad is invulnerable, I'm not going to spend anymore time explaining you are mistaken.  I just hope you don't learn it the hard way.

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Re: Credit card fraud from EVIKE
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2012, 11:16:14 AM »
I surrender

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Re: Credit card fraud from EVIKE
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2012, 12:38:54 PM »
Received a very nice email from EVIKE saying this rarely happens and that they do use a third party for transactions and never see the credit card info. The fradulent charges all originated from Fort Worth Texas where third party credit card processing company located.

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Re: Credit card fraud from EVIKE
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2012, 01:22:20 PM »
Is your bank taking the charges off?
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Re: Credit card fraud from EVIKE
« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2012, 01:30:37 PM »
Is your bank taking the charges off?


Yes charges will be reversed after investigation they say