Airsoft Arizona

Airsoft Hardware => Accessories & Gear => Topic started by: TheRev on December 21, 2001, 08:15:27 AM

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Post by: TheRev on December 21, 2001, 08:15:27 AM

Unfortunately, it's extremely difficult to control the velocities of the BB's with a powder driven device like this. Some BB's may just pop out at around 100 to 400 fps, while most will probably zing out around 600 to 800 or more (fps). Of course, this is largely dependent on the size of the actuating charge and the strength of the frangible shell (body). Needless to say, those velocities could put a serious hurt on you or your opponant. I sympathize with you though. A good grenade can really add some excitement to the party.

TheRev

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Post by: Ninja on December 21, 2001, 09:46:35 AM

I've read though, that this grenade is safe to use in play.

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Post by: Paco on December 21, 2001, 10:13:38 AM

I have read that it's by far the safest of the "soft air" grenades to use.  If you actually HIT someone with the grenade itself, it's only made out of cork, so it won't hurt.  Everything in it is biodegradeable as well.

http://www.pensieridileonardo.com/grana ... ezione.jpg (http://www.pensieridileonardo.com/granata/confezione.jpg)

To read more about it, go here:  http://babelfish.altavista.com (http://babelfish.altavista.com) and use the URL translator with http://www.pensieridileonardo.com/granata/spec_fx.html (http://www.pensieridileonardo.com/granata/spec_fx.html) and translate from ITIALIAN to ENGLISH.

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Post by: KamikazeSM on December 21, 2001, 10:17:38 AM

Translated in world Lingo - it says its made of cork and latex and is safe for the game of "soft-air" for the "dull moments in game".  Says effective range is 4M.  I wanna get me some of these!

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Post by: Ninja on December 21, 2001, 04:01:18 PM

I'd imagine if you kept some guidelines (ex: no lobbing them where you can't see where it will hit, etc.), these things they would be pretty fun to have in the game.

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Post by: Paco on December 21, 2001, 04:49:41 PM

The entire necessity of a grenade in airsoft is to be able to lob it where you can't see where it will land...  <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Post by: KamikazeSM on December 21, 2001, 05:41:17 PM

Yeah i agree Paco, definitely gotta chuck those puppies... I guess liability might be too much for AA, but maybe now with the new rules system?  in any case, they'd be sweet to have... many a time I woud have given my leg to have a grenade.

NOw, where do we buy them?

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Post by: Ninja on December 23, 2001, 10:50:53 AM

Anyone speak Italian?

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Post by: Harley on December 23, 2001, 03:34:25 PM

che cosa è esso che voi desiderano conoscere Bart giovane?

Scorpion 6 out.

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Post by: Ninja on December 26, 2001, 02:49:53 PM

Desidero sapere se ci trasmetteranno queste granate, John.

Ok...it was just an Altavista translation, not everyone can be cool like John.

But really, let's see if they'll send us a box or two of these to try out.

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Post by: Paco on January 03, 2002, 07:00:39 PM

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/reviews/ ... review.htm (http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/reviews/pdl_grenade/pdl_grenade_review.htm)

mmmmmmmmmmm  only $3 each...

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Post by: Legs on January 03, 2002, 11:06:05 PM

I feel giddy right now!  Just watched the video file of the grenades.  These things are awesome!

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Post by: Ninja on January 04, 2002, 12:32:21 AM

They speak English, someone get on this and see if we can pick up a batch.

3 to a pack, so about 10 bucks for a pack of grenades.  They recommend you order 10, so probably 100 bucks.  If 10 people are willing to play ball I think we could get this done.

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Post by: Paco on January 04, 2002, 01:43:30 AM

I already e-mailed them twice...  still no reply.

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Post by: Ninja on January 04, 2002, 10:25:52 AM

Maybe they're getting a lot of requests?

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Post by: Wolf on January 04, 2002, 10:27:59 AM

I had a dream last night that i found a big crate of those at one of the games<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Post by: Paco on January 13, 2002, 09:37:12 AM

I received this e-mail from them yesterday:

Dear Sir,
 
In answer to your e-mail, we inform you that we are in contact with the competent administrations (Foreign Office for exportations) to organise expeditions to foreign countries. We are still not able to give you precisal indications on time it will take to have definitive answers by an administrative point of view: in some country our Soft-Air Fragmentation Grenates can be considerated as real explosive because the fragmentation is driven on by the explosion of a fire cracker "Pirato".
However, we are trying to have answers as fast as possible. On the other hand, if you are able to obtein these informations faster than the italian administrations, please do not hesitate to get in touch and we will send you a complete technical documentation on our Soft-Air Fragmentation Grenates.

Thank you for your interest on our products,

 

Best regards.

 

Stefano Morandi - Pensieri di Leonardo S.r.l.

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Post by: Paco on February 03, 2002, 09:49:13 AM

...and I got this from them today:

Dear Sirs,

We should be pleased to supply you with our grenades but we regret having to inform you we are unable to satisfy your request as no courier is willing to transport fire crackers, which are needed to trigger our grenades.

We are therefore enclosing the fire cracker technical details, so that you may have the opportunity to find it in your country.
 
TECHNICAL DETAILS -  pyrotechnic toy named PIRATOC
It is made up of a cartboard cilinder whose external diameter is mm 8.5, its internal diameter is mm 6 and its lenght is mm 73. This cilinder is closed by a cartboard cork (explosion mm 60 from the top), and opposite to the cork there is the start-up friction button. It has a not less than four seconds delayed explosion.
In it there are the following pyrotechnic mixtures :
1) gr. 0.5 di explosion mixture made of:
- Barium nitrate
- Aluminium powder
2) gr. 0. 4 delaying explosion mixture:
- Barium nitrate  
- Sulfur (free from acids)
- Wood coal
- Shellac
- Granulated mixture made of:
- Potassium nitrate
- Sulfur (free from acids)
- Wood coal
3) gr. 0.1 friction ignition mixture made of:
- Potassium clorate
- Potassium nitrate
- Zinc oxide
- Potassium bicromate
- Shellac
- Arabic gum (non-acid glue)

In Italy, the distributor is Ditta Viviano s.n.c.,
S. Angelo di Mercato S. Severino (Salerno).

If you think it would be possible for you to find this kind of fire cracker somewhere in you area, please contact us again and we will give you all details required for a potential order.

Kind regards,

Stefano Morandi - Pensieri di Leonardo S.r.l.

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Post by: KamikazeSM on February 03, 2002, 03:26:20 PM

Sweetness that they're willing to ship the grenades, but dissapointing they can't anyone to ship the firecrackers.  I guess now we have to find a local pyrotechnics place.  Maybe we shoudl talk to the guys at enolagaye.com... I think they have a courier to ship all their pyrotechnics stuff.

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Post by: nukeduster on February 04, 2002, 06:37:19 PM

I know the exact firecracker they need. I used to play with them all the time when I lived in south america. Petardos. You can get them in mexico very easily around new years and mexican independence day, and off and on in mexico every other day of the year. If nothing else, or no sooner, im going in july back to brazil and bolivia for a week or two and could try to pick up a couple bags of them if you really wanna order the grenades. Not definate that I'd be able to find them, but I am going, might as well try to find some, assuming its impossible to find some state side. Then again, its not impossible to make them either. Simplified - its an m80 + strike anywhere matchheads glued ontop a centemeter long fuse.

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Post by: Ninja on December 20, 2001, 03:29:18 PM

http://www.pensieridileonardo.com/media/bomba.mpg (http://www.pensieridileonardo.com/media/bomba.mpg)

Many a time in-game have I wished for something like this.

It's packed with BB's...

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