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Re: The Trouble with Vanguard
« Reply #120 on: November 20, 2012, 03:00:21 AM »
Just as a bit of evidence, both of these posts were screencapped from the Facebook group for the game. The names have been removed for privacy reasons, but the posters are free to come forth and name themselves if they so choose.





I was also personally told by a third person that he was turned away by Vanguard staff, I heard about several more secondhand, and there were multiple complainants in the game thread here on AA, but I don't feel like sifting through 40 pages of chaff to find a post or two.

Yeah, I was the third person, with you and Jason for the order. The whole purpose of my friend and I driving down to Vanguard was to pre-pay for Operation Zombie Hunter and just to have an excuse to play at the field since it was a while since we played there. Man, while I can see the company has grown with their new front desk and half of the staging area cut off because they were doing construction, none of the employees "knew" what I was talking about. I spoke to about five of their employees and none of them knew what I about Operation Zombie Hunter or who Phoenix Shadow Company was. Two of the employees actually handed me some flyer for some zombie event of theirs that was "going to be better anyway." BS, man.

And for the bag searching I was never aware of this. Regardless, I personally bring a lock and put it on my bag wherever I go because I've lost too many personal belongings at Vanguard. During TWO occasions I've had problems with attempted theft/THEFT there. It all started during a session at Vanguard last year where my gun died in the middle of a game, so I stepped off the field to fetch a fresh battery to only find a kid digging through my bag. The other times are the typical ones like others have posted where they would return to their tables after a game and find missing belongings. For me it was a bag of bbs (which I mark with a symbol in sharpie after buying so our bags don't get mixed up with whoever we may be sharing a table with) and a couple of speed loaders, which I mark very obviously with white paint and the letter "D" written in sharpie on them.

Anyway, if Vanguard has come to this like you guys have described, I think I'll take my money elsewhere and give someone else my business. Let's say, oh, I don't know... Tempe.
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Re: The Trouble with Vanguard
« Reply #121 on: November 20, 2012, 03:44:21 PM »
Oh there was that time.. I threw a Thunder B and some kid after the game went over and picked it up like it was his. I asked him for it and he said no it was his. I grabbed it and showed him the core which had TPA written on it. Then promptly told him not to touch shit that wasn't his...
Yea, lots of stealing going on.
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Re: The Trouble with Vanguard
« Reply #122 on: November 20, 2012, 04:14:26 PM »
I guess i am the lucky one....I have only had one MAG brand mag stolen from me. this is very insane.
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Re: The Trouble with Vanguard
« Reply #123 on: November 28, 2012, 01:22:13 AM »
The fact that anything is getting stolen at all is very concerning. The last time I went there, 2 of the refs were full of themselves and thought they their shit smelled sweater than everyone elses. I was trying to clean off the fog on my glasses and the guy told me I'd have to do pushups if I dont put them back on. The fuck?

They were also total shit when the games were TOTALLY uneven. They put all the heavily geared, more experienced guys on one team, and the kiddes on the other, and me and my bro were stuck with the kiddies. We literally couldnt leave our spawn without getting lit up, and it didnt help that they werent calling their shots. Pathetic.

Unfortunately I'm going back there Sunday cuz its the only place my friend likes to go to. Will report back then.

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Re: The Trouble with Vanguard
« Reply #124 on: November 28, 2012, 04:15:35 PM »
They were also total shit when the games were TOTALLY uneven.
lol that's super annoying. Whenever I go, I often switch to the underdog team to help them out a bit.
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Re: The Trouble with Vanguard
« Reply #125 on: November 28, 2012, 05:17:13 PM »
Oh there was that time.. I threw a Thunder B and some kid after the game went over and picked it up like it was his. I asked him for it and he said no it was his. I grabbed it and showed him the core which had TPA written on it. Then promptly told him not to touch shit that wasn't his...
Yea, lots of stealing going on.


That would absolutely infuriate me.... Glad I never went to Vanguard when I lived in AZ
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Re: The Trouble with Vanguard
« Reply #126 on: November 28, 2012, 05:22:21 PM »
And, if anyone told me to do pushups at a frackin' airsoft field I'd probably just start laughing. I have to ask, has anyone been kicked out for not obliging the refs of their pushup request?

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Re: The Trouble with Vanguard
« Reply #127 on: November 28, 2012, 05:59:38 PM »
I have to ask, has anyone been kicked out for not obliging the refs of their pushup request?


Yes, my entire ex-"team" (if you can even call in that) was kicked out and then later banned.  The banning was due to arguing with the refs over the pushups :P

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Re: The Trouble with Vanguard
« Reply #128 on: November 28, 2012, 08:15:17 PM »
I have to ask, has anyone been kicked out for not obliging the refs of their pushup request?


Yes, my entire ex-"team" (if you can even call in that) was kicked out and then later banned.  The banning was due to arguing with the refs over the pushups :P


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Re: The Trouble with Vanguard
« Reply #129 on: November 28, 2012, 08:26:09 PM »
I have to ask, has anyone been kicked out for not obliging the refs of their pushup request?


Yes, my entire ex-"team" (if you can even call in that) was kicked out and then later banned.  The banning was due to arguing with the refs over the pushups :P

I'm practically dying laughing over here. What do they do when the guys they're telling to do pushups are like twice their size? I'm imagining them telling my buddy to do pushups.... He's like 6'5", 315lbs, college hammer/discus thrower.... Hahahahaha.... Wooohhhboy...  ;D
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Re: The Trouble with Vanguard
« Reply #130 on: November 28, 2012, 08:59:02 PM »
There's many, many people I've met at games that the refs (who are lil folk) wouldn't want to ask to do push ups. Much easier to enforce that rule with junior high kids. :P
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Re: The Trouble with Vanguard
« Reply #131 on: November 28, 2012, 09:10:52 PM »


Wow. There is simply no other word, just... wow.
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Re: The Trouble with Vanguard
« Reply #132 on: November 28, 2012, 10:06:21 PM »
TL;DR: Field is great. Kids under ~15 are terrible. Staff was decent. Park your stuff with kids that act their age.
please don't give up on all us ~15 year olds. im 13 and i hate them too. I try to act mature and I do the right thing as much a possible. I also take my airsofting seriously and I hate to see cheating as it takes the fun away from me because nobody good and serious about airsoft ever wants me with them. so I love lighting assholes up and play fair as long as you do too.
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Re: The Trouble with Vanguard
« Reply #133 on: November 28, 2012, 10:13:55 PM »
TL;DR: Field is great. Kids under ~15 are terrible. Staff was decent. Park your stuff with kids that act their age.
please don't give up on all us ~15 year olds. im 13 and i hate them too. I try to act mature and I do the right thing as much a possible. I also take my airsofting seriously and I hate to see cheating as it takes the fun away from me because nobody good and serious about airsoft ever wants me with them. so I love lighting assholes up and play fair as long as you do too.
I just finished typing the same thing and the sign that says another comment has been posted popped up. I really do not want to have a bad reputation in the Airsoft community just because I am of a younger age. I get where the whole the younger the more immature thing is coming from but there is a handful of mature younger guys in my opinion.
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Re: The Trouble with Vanguard
« Reply #134 on: November 28, 2012, 10:17:45 PM »
I'm practically dying laughing over here. What do they do when the guys they're telling to do pushups are like twice their size? I'm imagining them telling my buddy to do pushups.... He's like 6'5", 315lbs, college hammer/discus thrower.... Hahahahaha.... Wooohhhboy...  ;D
I think I've seen him with you at games. when you mentioned him I started laughing thinking about a ref telling him to do push-ups.
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