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Offline Paco

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« on: September 21, 2004, 05:33:55 PM »
I assume that you're talking about the new Wolf ammo...  it's 10 times better than the previous lacquer coated ammo.  I use it all the time and it works very well.
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2004, 06:05:31 PM »
No its not wolf.I think its made by federal or remington.The actual case is polymer plastic.The only part on the case thats brass is the bottom where the extractor grabs and primer sit.The Miwall ammo people had it.They told us the military are starting to use it because its lighter so troops can carry more ammo.
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2004, 06:23:57 PM »
Humm....I can see more jams by using a polymer plastic casing.  As the bullet would be easier to be misalligned from the casing when loaded into the chamber.
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2004, 06:37:03 PM »
No, not the new wolf steel case, it is a plastic case.  I bought a box of 20.  Ill see how they work in my AR this saturday.
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2004, 07:07:16 PM »
Oh...  okay.  I've never used that ammo, but I've seen it.  Let us know how you like it, but a box of 20 won't tell you much.
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2004, 07:07:27 PM »
I bought 5 rounds of it from a guy I know. They were staped Remington. I gave 2 of them to Harley and he said he was going to try one out. According to the guy I got them from they are 30% lighter than standard 55 grain Lake City rounds and the military just got a contract with someone for them.
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2004, 07:48:13 PM »
I found out within twenty rounds of s and b that my gun hates it.
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2004, 07:55:26 PM »
They had a review of it in the Small Arms Review magazine they handed out at the show.  I bought a couple loose rounds for my collection from Sci2000tech.  Interesting stuff, only brass from the rim to 1/4 the case length then it's polymer the rest of the way.  Supposed to enhance feeding and extraction for the M16's.
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2004, 08:11:46 PM »
Cool.
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2004, 08:41:38 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Harley</i>
<br />They had a review of it in the Small Arms Review magazine they handed out at the show.  I bought a couple loose rounds for my collection from Sci2000tech.  Interesting stuff, only brass from the rim to 1/4 the case length then it's polymer the rest of the way.  Supposed to enhance feeding and extraction for the M16's.
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Yes, but does it? I've been interested in it for a while, just to see how the plastic works. Read about plastic cases quite a while ago in an old Cartridges of the World book. They didn't work out to well in the USAF's 20mm, so I'm interested in how they work now, albeit in a much smaller round.

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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2004, 08:48:03 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Paco</i>
<br />I assume that you're talking about the new Wolf ammo...  it's 10 times better than the previous lacquer coated ammo.  I use it all the time and it works very well.
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What do you use it in?  If you use it in an AR, has it done any damage or extreme wear to the extractor or ejector?
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Polymer cased ammo
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2004, 05:11:52 PM »
I saw this .223 polymer cased ammo at the gun show, but didnt want to buy an ammo can of it without testing it.  I found a box today and bought it.  Anyone tested any of this before?
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2005, 06:05:28 PM »
Old thread, I know, but I got a box of these and my AR ate them up with no problems. Granted, that was just 20 rounds, but it functioned just fine. :D
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Re: Polymer cased ammo
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2005, 05:43:22 AM »
Quote from: "Mr. Joseph"
I saw this .223 polymer cased ammo at the gun show, but didnt want to buy an ammo can of it without testing it.  I found a box today and bought it.  Anyone tested any of this before?


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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2005, 02:14:13 PM »
Im assuming that the casings cannot be reloded, due to the weak structural intrgrity of the plastic, and the lack of conforming to a new specific shape when pushed into a resizing die. I also wonder if they are boxer or berdan primed. Ive seen them before, but Im not sure if theyre made out of a harder polymer. Ive reloaded alot of steel casings before, but never any that were partly plastic.
Im wondering if the plastic is only on the outer circumfrence of the casing, and there is still brass running a substantial way up to the neck. Becase having the base of a cartrige a seperate piece would create a weak area where it connects with the plastic case. This might cause a roblem in rifles that require blowback power to work the action such as the hk/g3 series. They rely on a short powerful rearward thrust of the casing on firing to unlock the bolt. After the gas pessure in the barrel is low enough, the remaining recoil of the cartrige pushes it rearward. Im not sure if thew make them in .308 but in the case of the hk/g3 series, the brass base combined with the weak tensile strength of the plastic put in a high pressue extraction point  may cause the base to actually blow off of the plastic portion.
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