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Commandant cancels MTV
« on: February 28, 2008, 08:19:16 PM »
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,333154,00.html
what do you guys think? im kinda happy... i dont need that extra weight. more protection, but slower, bulkier, etc.
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2008, 08:28:18 PM »
Commandant cancels MTV

Shit, I thought the Grim Reaper was coming



For you older guys that remember when MTV first started
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2008, 08:45:57 PM »
That's a General doing what a good General does - listening to his Marines and taking action!

Having never worn an MTV in combat, my opinion is limited, but I will say that if the vest isn't the best possible option, get rid of it.

I'll let Ian (Firehead) chime in about the IOTV.

I really don't understand the apparent inability of the military (Big Green, especially) to use proven, and AVAILABLE, COTS systems (Commercial Off-The-Shelf).
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2008, 10:04:12 PM »
What about class 5 dragon skin? It is supposed to be amazing. Don't know what the weight is though...
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2008, 11:33:11 PM »
Well, from everything I understand the MTV and the IOTV are essentially the same. Where I haven't noticed the wieght problem, it is significantly more comfortable, than the standard IBA. I didn't wear mine with the side plates, though. It was a big large though. My medium, fit like a large, except with smaller plates. I found it nearly impossible, to get the IOTV the way you liked it, with pouches attached. The cumberbun is flimsy, and doesn't support the wieght that is put on it. SAW gunners who liked to attach their shit to the vest have a hard time also, as the panel that covers the cumberbun is too wide, thus making large SAW drums cumbersome. I have seen soldiers have their vest fall apart, and it seems to be a common problem. I found the release cable to a poor design. The shoulders are a pain in the ass to adjust, so you pretty much wear it as is. Overall, it is an improvement from the IBA as far as comfort. I feel it is a step down as far as versatility for load. Also, there is alot of unused space on the armor, and pockets that are utterly useless.

I don't know about this "class 5 dragon skn", but the dragon skin has yet to prove itself. Due to the way the armor panel is built, it cannot stand heat, and the "scales" tend to shift, reducing its capability to protect the end user.
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« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2008, 12:13:05 PM »
Dragonskin is no more.

It was nothng but hype from the get-go, FAILED to prove itself as a viable armor system, and the higher-ups are apparently assclowns to the nth degree.

I wouldn't even trust that shit at an airsoft game. :roll:
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2008, 09:38:15 PM »
i'm not the biggest fan of General Conway, however i think this was a good call on him.
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