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Airsoft Hardware => Troubleshooting => Topic started by: locknid on June 26, 2005, 05:38:58 PM

Title: DOH!!!! someone good with TM mp5's
Post by: locknid on June 26, 2005, 05:38:58 PM
Well yesterday was my first airsoft game in a couple of years. My gun before shot 370fps because of upgrades. At the game it chrono'ed at 280, my spring must have been compressed for a long time. Anyways I went to jungle toy and got a m120 spring to put in. I had done the previous upgrades(spring, metal bushings, and tight-bore barrel) myself with no problem so I figured I could do it again. Boy was I wrong. To make a long story short my gun does not shot now and I have a couple of extra screws(never a good sign). I do not really want to take it apart again and redo it. Is there anyone near the tempe area which knows a lot about the TM mp5 or gearboxes in general. I will compensate for time working on it.
Title: Re: DOH!!!! someone good with TM mp5's
Post by: Reaver on June 27, 2005, 05:41:35 AM
Quote from: "locknid"
Well yesterday was my first airsoft game in a couple of years. My gun before shot 370fps because of upgrades. At the game it chrono'ed at 280, my spring must have been compressed for a long time. Anyways I went to jungle toy and got a m120 spring to put in. I had done the previous upgrades(spring, metal bushings, and tight-bore barrel) myself with no problem so I figured I could do it again. Boy was I wrong. To make a long story short my gun does not shot now and I have a couple of extra screws(never a good sign). I do not really want to take it apart again and redo it. Is there anyone near the tempe area which knows a lot about the TM mp5 or gearboxes in general. I will compensate for time working on it.


  Well, first off, doesn't shoot doesn't accurately describe the issue.  ;)

  What exactly is going on?  Do you hear the pop of the piston slamming forward?  Does it just make a whinning noise?  Do BB's roll out of the barrel?  Symptoms are very important in the diagnosis.  :)
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Post by: locknid on June 27, 2005, 11:59:42 AM
It won't even pull back to shot. the gears are not moving at all when i pull the trigger. I think I have someone to help me out now.
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Post by: chainsaw on June 27, 2005, 03:45:36 PM
Why dont you take it to JT?
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Post by: gixser13 on June 27, 2005, 03:59:59 PM
What size battery are you running? did you remove or double up on any shims? is your battery fully charged? JT has m120 now?????

Damn them!
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Post by: sNiPeRWoLf88 on June 27, 2005, 11:52:45 PM
It may sound funny... but did you hook the motor back up and are the wires connected?
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Post by: Reaver on June 28, 2005, 05:38:33 AM
Quote from: "chainsaw"
Why dont you take it to JT?


  Because one should learn how to take care of one's own gun.  ;)
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Post by: Vince on June 28, 2005, 09:57:01 AM
Quote from: "chainsaw"
Why dont you take it to JT?


Cause Dusty has one million bajillion guns to work on and isn't accepting any more right now.
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Post by: 1trooper, manyweapons on June 28, 2005, 12:00:15 PM
Hell , team B.O.S. has to work on 3 ics mp5s, if the TM is the same it should be a quick fix.

SIC-bishop repaired half our AEGs. But Reaver's right "one should know and repair their own weapon".
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Post by: chivaman on July 02, 2005, 11:14:58 PM
First off the ics and tm mp5 are similar but not the same. any one who has worked with a tm and any other airsoft gun knows that tm are the best guns to upgrade if you are a begginer. it sounds like you did not pull back the anti reverse latch and the shimming is all wrong. like reaver said one should learn to take care of ones gun. you should first find out what shimming works with your gun. to do this you might want to take the spring out and put in your gears and shim them in diffrent sets and spin them with out a spring and if they move alot adjust the shimming if they move a little then there are good. and make sure that you pull the anti reverse latch all back because if its forward i will cause your gun to jam. good luck and try. TM's are the best aeg'sto learn with.
Title: I have a problem with my MP5 to...
Post by: MP5 NOOB on September 09, 2005, 05:20:44 PM
Well, here is my problem  :( . My MP5 (Tokyo Mauri High Grade) isn't working. The motor tries to engage to gears but then it stops once it begins to touch them. I think it might need a new motor but I bought it used (that is not a good thing to do). It is upgraded to a 340 FPS w/ .25 (that is what the guy said but since I got it broken I have never been able to try it). Can some one tell me if it is just worth selling to someone as a parts gun? Or should I get it fixed (says it also has a lot of upgrades in it to) I have taken it appart and everything works in the mec  box but once you put the spring and motor it won't work.

P.S. It won't let my post my own topic so I might as well post it in a place where some one already has a problem.
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Post by: Ganef on September 09, 2005, 06:20:26 PM
What size battery are you using? A stronger spring would require at least a 9.6v to have it operate normally. I ran an MP5 for a while and had the same probalo, putting a bigger battery (or a fully charged one)  fixed the issue.
Title: Im not sure
Post by: MP5 NOOB on September 11, 2005, 11:35:16 AM
I used a power supply and ran it on a 9.6 but it still didn't work? Would the EG700 be able to handle a 10.6? I don't think it would need it I think I would need a new motor.
Title: Re: Im not sure
Post by: andyhinds on September 11, 2005, 11:55:26 AM
Quote from: "MP5 NOOB"
I used a power supply and ran it on a 9.6 but it still didn't work? Would the EG700 be able to handle a 10.6? I don't think it would need it I think I would need a new motor.


A powersupply may not be able to source the necessary current.
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Post by: MP5 NOOB on September 11, 2005, 04:36:40 PM
Yes it is we made it equivlent to a 9.6 1100MAH battery
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Post by: busta_cap on September 11, 2005, 05:14:00 PM
If you mean a computer PSU...thats 4.5 volts...

WHy dont you just buy a battery?
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Post by: Ganef on September 11, 2005, 05:40:20 PM
Follow this checklist:
-break down your mech box.
-make sure you have all the pieces
!!put the parts back to gether making sure that:
-check out the electrical connection (trigger operated dealey) for any abnormal corrosion or possible connection problem.
-place the gears in neutral position (with the sector gear's teeth turned away from the piston sliding area).
-The anti reversl latch is in correctly (not backwards).
-The gears are correctly shimmed with little play side to side, and properly lubricated.
-The gears turn freely without placing the spring and piston in place.
-Place the spring and piston into place and close your mechbox.
Put your gun back together taking care to:
-make sure your motor works by attaching the terminals before placing it in the grip allowing it to spin freely.
-make sure that the correct teminals (+ & -) are placed on the correct terminal ends of the motor when installing it into the grip.
-Put the rest back together.

If you have a 9.6V BATTERY!! (never messed with a power converter, but you can't blame something esle if you use a properly charged battery), if you motor works on its own, if the gears turn and are properly shimmed without the motor or spring, and the electrical connections in the gun are correctly installed and functioning, then there is no reason that your gun should not function. This process should allow you to back-track the problem if you follow it in reverse. But, if you followed it to a T then you should have found your problem before it went back together. If you still can't figure it out, take it to Jungle Toy and pay one of them to fix it for you.

If you need any explanation on the parts explained then highlight it click copy and then go to google and hit paste then type airsoft, click enter and sift through the links. If you do not want to get a 9.6V battery then don't have an upgraded spring.
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Post by: MP5 NOOB on September 14, 2005, 03:37:50 PM
Yea I have already done all of those thanks though. I need to know where Jungle Toy is located I looked on the site and I could not find out where they where.
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Post by: Ganef on September 14, 2005, 07:36:29 PM
If you would have done it all you would have found the problem! but that is fine if you do not care...

One on the SE corner of southern and McClintock in tempe, one on the SW corner of 35th ave and Northern in phoenix and one on scottsdale road near bear arms not sure of the other crossroads. PM either Nil8r or JoJockAmo, they are our JT staff on AA boards.
Title: I did...
Post by: MP5 NOOB on September 17, 2005, 03:34:15 PM
I did do all of that. But they gun has been played with inside so im not sure if anything is missing that is not apparent. Thanks for the directions.