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"What would you do if.." (Video)
« on: May 05, 2006, 10:52:23 AM »
Question from arfcom. "If you were in that restaurant and witnessed this happening and you were carrying concealed, what would you have done?"

www.wtflmao.com/data/media/8/050106_kil ... reason.wmv
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Offline Ivan

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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2006, 11:24:54 AM »
Implement the OODA loop...

I would have tried to get  good cover, assess the total situation, line up a good shooting angle, scream " stop! get on the floor now!! stop!!! I will shoot!! and pray that one of the punk bitches still tried pulling a gun so I could put him where he belongs - in a wooden box.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2006, 11:25:19 AM »
Obviously anything we say at this point is after the fact and with hindsight.

Hard to say... There are 4 of them, and only one of you.  You know one is armed, but you don't know about the others.  You don't have any responsibility to do anything at all, but at the same time, your ability to protect from immient fatal danger extends to other people as well.

We'd all say "Well I'd have stopped the fight."  But the reality may be different.
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2006, 11:37:00 AM »
I am with whacker except that I would add "call911" into the plan. I part so that if I had to shoot there would be tape of me giving them a chance. That said, disparity of force rules would probably mean you could simply open fire in there, no warning needed.

As for there being 4 or them, I am pretty sure I can drop 2-3 before they have any idea wtf just happened, the 4th be to busy wetting his pants to fight.
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2006, 11:42:50 AM »
I agree with Matt.  Also In that video I dont know if when the guy pulled the gun out if it was at all visible to the people around the area. At least until he fired on the guy. People may have not known the full extent of the immediate threat.  I aslo dont know how fast it all happened. It could of been 30 seconds or longer, can't tell cause they dont show the whole tape. 30 seconds is a long time and at the same time very quick. Depends on what mode you're in.
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2006, 11:47:26 AM »
Well mikey would just bust out some Bruce Lee moves...

But I think, if I was armed, I would still be very hesitant to use my weapon. Not because I wouldn't want to hurt them, but you have to remember collaroral damage, possibly to other people in the area. Wacker probably said it best, find cover before you pull it out. But like lightning said, make sure someone else knows before you take matters into your own hands.
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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2006, 12:08:31 PM »
Quote from: "Raith"
Obviously anything we say at this point is after the fact and with hindsight.

Hard to say... There are 4 of them, and only one of you.  You know one is armed, but you don't know about the others.  You don't have any responsibility to do anything at all, but at the same time, your ability to protect from immient fatal danger extends to other people as well.

We'd all say "Well I'd have stopped the fight."  But the reality may be different.


I would do the exact same thing I said "+1" to on arfcom..

"It's a trick question. I wouldn't be eating there in the first place"
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2006, 12:15:41 PM »
ok. heres a question for y'all.. how many of you here have actually had a situation similar or had to draw down on someone? how many of you have actually had to shoot someone in real life?  If so.. how many years has it taken you to stop having bad dreams or sitting awake at night running it through your head how you coulda done it differently? it's been over 10 years for me, and It still rents space in my head.
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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2006, 12:22:56 PM »
There's been multiple times where I've been present at a fight or brawl (fortunately no guns were involved) and I saw a friend was in trouble, and just by instinct jumped in and saved him from getting beat to pieces. You can't prepare for a situation like that. It's all based on what you've done in the past to get yourself to the right mental and physcical condition to be able to improvise logically. Me? I work out ( a lot), trained in martial arts, stay in athletics, etc. We all have our ways.
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2006, 12:27:52 PM »
It may not have been a clean shoot....

Establish good cover with a good field of view. Pull my pistol, and yell for them to stop, if they fail to stop I would open fire. I'm sure I could get it justified becuase I was attempting to save a third party. It might have been fun to jump in with a knife and cut a few people though.
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2006, 12:32:16 PM »
LMFAO  - I can see that too.. Ian with a friggin knife.
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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2006, 12:36:34 PM »
Good ol' Ian. Gung ho to the end. What do they feed you infantry dudes?
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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2006, 12:38:22 PM »
Quote from: "Gantaliano Hoff"
Good ol' Ian. Gung ho to the end. What do they feed you infantry dudes?


Mostly MREs.

It would have been a big knife, but it would have been VERY messy.
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2006, 01:44:04 PM »
MREs are the primary food source of active duty infantry.  Ian is only a tampon, he gets to eat McDonalds mostly.
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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2006, 01:49:05 PM »
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MREs are the primary food source of active duty infantry.  Ian is only a tampon, he gets to eat McDonalds mostly.


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

But he gets a bonus every month.
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