Author Topic: CA CQBR  (Read 1220 times)

Offline SINJIN

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sergeant Major
  • *****
  • Posts: 596
    • View Profile
    • http://www.coyotetactical.com/gallery
CA CQBR
« on: May 29, 2006, 09:57:31 PM »
Well a few of us found out this weekend that the Gonzo batteries we purchased are a little too powerful for our CQBR's.  It seems the rate of fire is too much and in Auto it can't keep up.  I was just wondering what some of yall had in mind to resolve this issue?
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by SINJIN »

Offline studdermonkey

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Brigadier General
  • *****
  • Posts: 1733
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2006, 10:00:10 PM »
I thought the guns worked fine as long as you shot in 5-6rd bursts. But, when I had to empty 100rds at an Aco that thought I was a friendly, it had feeding issues. It'd skip a round every 20th shot or so. No big deal, to me.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by studdermonkey »
كافر
Nate!

Offline Gantaliano Hoff

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Brigadier General
  • *****
  • Posts: 1531
    • View Profile
    • http://www.amsog.com
(No subject)
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2006, 10:11:08 PM »
Well. I stripped the piston on mine this weekend. Kinda caught me off gaurd cause it was still stock...And I was using a sanyo battery in it. :?
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Gantaliano Hoff »

Offline War savage

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sergeant Major
  • *****
  • Posts: 545
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2006, 10:40:17 PM »
Torque up gears. Slow the rate of fire down.

I thought we talked about this?

It's like the valve springs in a car engine. The higher the RPM's rev, the more the valves will begin to float open causing the engine to fail at high RPM. The solution is slow the engine down or change the spring on the valve so it will open and close at a faster rate. Same thing is happening with the nozzle and tappet plate.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by War savage »

Offline KOBO

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sergeant Major
  • *****
  • Posts: 599
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2006, 10:28:18 AM »
where the batteries 9.6 or higher?
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by KOBO »

Offline JoJockAmo

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sergeant Major
  • *****
  • Posts: 642
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2006, 10:47:05 AM »
Quote from: "War savage"
Torque up gears. Slow the rate of fire down.

I thought we talked about this?

It's like the valve springs in a car engine. The higher the RPM's rev, the more the valves will begin to float open causing the engine to fail at high RPM. The solution is slow the engine down or change the spring on the valve so it will open and close at a faster rate. Same thing is happening with the nozzle and tappet plate.


That or a EG700 motor. There is also that adaptor to put on the sector gear to keep the tappet plate back longer to allow BBs to feed (but I haven't heard much on that) http://www.wgcshop.com King Arms Gear Sector Clip
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by JoJockAmo »

THIS IS CETI ALPHA FIVE! (and don\'t you forget it)

Offline SINJIN

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sergeant Major
  • *****
  • Posts: 596
    • View Profile
    • http://www.coyotetactical.com/gallery
(No subject)
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2006, 11:07:29 AM »
Quote from: "KOBO"
where the batteries 9.6 or higher?


They say 9.6, but we are thinking it could be higher.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by SINJIN »

Offline KOBO

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sergeant Major
  • *****
  • Posts: 599
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2006, 11:17:36 AM »
Do you guys have enough FPS to play with where you can drop a M120 in? The silver ones will boost it over, but what about the colored ones? The heavier spring might give you enough to slow it down.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by KOBO »

Offline SINJIN

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sergeant Major
  • *****
  • Posts: 596
    • View Profile
    • http://www.coyotetactical.com/gallery
(No subject)
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2006, 11:23:36 AM »
Quote from: "KOBO"
Do you guys have enough FPS to play with where you can drop a M120 in? The silver ones will boost it over, but what about the colored ones? The heavier spring might give you enough to slow it down.


I clocked in at 330 at the chrono at LCV with .25's.  So should have plenty of room to play with.

Another idea Matt had was taking one of the cell's off the gonzo battery to make it 8.4 which would lower the ROF.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by SINJIN »

Offline KOBO

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sergeant Major
  • *****
  • Posts: 599
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2006, 11:27:58 AM »
I would imagine it  just needs a little adjustment if the shorts bursts are fine and is just the long bursts that have issues keeping up. Lowering the battery to a 8.4 might be to big of an adjustment, if you like the real high rate of fire that is.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by KOBO »

Offline PHX COBRA

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Captain
  • *****
  • Posts: 935
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2006, 12:03:28 PM »
Mine simply cannot fire in F/A at all.  It gets 1 bb out and fires to fast from there on and cannot keep up.  I think torque-up gears and motor should set it straight, or just an EG700 as was stated.

I fired in Semi all of LC, and really didn't care that I couldn't use F/A.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by PHX COBRA »


Offline Farslayer

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Major General
  • *****
  • Posts: 2103
    • View Profile
    • http://www.amsog.com
(No subject)
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2006, 12:08:02 PM »
it seems that there is often a trade off when you start to upgrade AEG's.  They seem to be harder to maintain and break down more often...which kind of makes sense.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Farslayer »
Benn

Offline Wicked-Mpact

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Master Sergeant
  • *****
  • Posts: 399
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2006, 12:32:48 PM »
Quote from: "PHX COBRA"
Mine simply cannot fire in F/A at all.  It gets 1 bb out and fires to fast from there on and cannot keep up.  

I fired in Semi all of LC, and really didn't care that I couldn't use F/A.


Same here, I adjusted quickly though but given the situation the high speed in semi auto was just perfect for me, still got tons of kills. A reliable burst would be nice for those bush shots and players with extra anti 6 mm armor.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Wicked-Mpact »

Offline Gantaliano Hoff

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Brigadier General
  • *****
  • Posts: 1531
    • View Profile
    • http://www.amsog.com
(No subject)
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2006, 03:59:59 PM »
Well. I could have sworn it was the piston. But when I opened the gearbox I found that it was the middle gear that had lost some teeth. That REALLY surprised me. But I guess it was just that one random, rare, time that something will fluke like that. Oh well. I guess I'm getting some some new gears...
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Gantaliano Hoff »