g4 a5 desert knight vs s&t tar21 metal gearbox

[krdoloroso]

What do you think is better?

G4 a5 desert knight...
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=6559
Or
S&t tar21 new metal gearbox version...
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=378&products_id=10772

Why?

I'm thinking the g4 is already shimmed and aoe is corrected..and other stuffs like that...?
Does the g4 come with metal bushings?

Or should i get the tar21 and pay extra for the upgrade sevice that they have, shimming, aoe correcting, spring, bushing, etc...?

To all who will reply... Thank you so much...

Good night!

[sabertooth]

well are you doing cqb or feild

[TangoAlpha30]

The G4 A5 has G&G internals.. No brainer, go with G4 A5. You will love it like I love my G4, Trust me.

[CryWulf]

You can't go wrong with a G4. I have had one, and most people that I know have one. They are pretty amazing, especially for the price.

S&T however is not very good. I can't speak from experience, but I have seen and felt some, and they are not good quality.

[xTanTricK]

You're much better off getting the G4. Almost all G4's I got ended up shooting 410fps or higher with a .2 bb. You might need to do some downgrading if it shoots too hot.

[Dayton]

I'm thinking the g4 is already shimmed and aoe is corrected..and other stuffs like that...?

I you are thinking that the G4 has already had the internals worked on because it says it was put together by ASGI Techs, don't be fooled. It says that because they put a barrel, RIS, and flip up sights on it. External work only. Just so you know.

[krdoloroso]

so if i get a g4 i still need to do some shimming and other stuff?

[xTanTricK]

so if i get a g4 i still need to do some shimming and other stuff?

Yes. The only thing they do internally is add a tightbore if the description says so. The extra money you pay for a G4 is for the outer barrel, rail system and any other external add ons they decide to put on the gun.

[Terreus]

Neither. Save up a little more and get a G&P, G&G proline or a VFC.

Yeah, they cost more, but if you're even remotely serious about the sport don't waste 150 on some POS that you're going to upgrade from anyway. It's a terrible investment with almost no resale value. I wouldn't take a G4 or an S&T if someone paid me.

[Adr3n4line]

so if i get a g4 i still need to do some shimming and other stuff?

Yes. The only thing they do internally is add a tightbore if the description says so. The extra money you pay for a G4 is for the outer barrel, rail system and any other external add ons they decide to put on the gun.

When I opened up my G4, I found that the cylinder, spring, and barrel were the only things that had been changed. Having it re-shimmed is definitely a recommendation.