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Nope, Chuck Testa. But for reals no it's a stick hi-cap. Updated and pics added

Dave I applaud your post sir, the one post that seems very constructive

Here are a few issues that I see.

I am a youth pastor for my local church and I have some younger students who want to airsoft. Bringing them to AA games is not a possibility and neither is them coming to the LC series.

The first thing I thought of was to bring them to vanguard. This is the first thing I see here, vanguard is not geared towards experienced players at all. If you want to play against "dedicated" and "veteran" players don't go to vanguard. period

I took some of my students about two weeks ago and they had fun. They got to shoot a bunch of kids near their age, and I had a decent time running with them shooting people.

This brings up the second issue, the refs and staff

I'm not gonna sit here and tell you guys that I am some "high speed airsofter" or a whatever, I've been playing for a while, gone to some LC events and got to be part of a team. I am also an adult

When you walk into the place all the staff are high school aged people. The front desk girls all knew what they were doing and were helpful, no complaints there. I do have complaints about the refs on the field.

When we first got in we went to the chrono station. As we were at the chrono station the refs started yelling at everyone to line up for the next game, "or your gonna sit out". I look at the line for chrono and there are at least 10-15 people waiting. I look at that as poor organization and planning

At this point I have an empty m4 midcap in my hand and when I get up to the chrono a staff is there. The staff is some younger guy probably in high school, he tells me he dosen't have a speedloader or any house bb's to chrono with. I'm used to going to LC games were you show up and the guys running chrono are ready to go, not some agitated HS student trying to tell me I need to get back in line, because he isn't prepared to run a chrono station and now the line is huge.

Finally got all the FPS stuff figured out and got the guns chronoed and we had managed to miss 2 games. I figured meh my bad. The worst part was one of the refs, I don't know his name but he was constantly rude. at one point I called him out because of the way he was talking to some little kids.

He told the kids to do some push ups at some point because of the eye pro in the staging area rule. meh, that seems kinda silly but whatever kids should keep their eye pro on anyways. But then after another round he comes by these kids and tells them again to keep eye pro on in the staging area.

I get how frustrating it can be working with teens, thats what I do daily, but the next thing he said is what pissed me off. He said something like, "didn't I tell you to do push-ups already? ok, whatever you all look the same anyways" and the way he said it was so freaking condescending it pissed me off.

I asked him why he would talk to those kids like that? he changed his attitude and tone when he talked with me and stumbled across some fake excuse saying he didn't mean it in a mean way etc... but I didn't believe him and made the point that these "kids who all look the same" are your customers keep that in mind.

He said ok and walked away. Cool the rest of the day he left the kids alone and left me and mine alone also, seemed to work out for the best.

I'm not trying to say that I'm some badass that calls out the dudes in charge, the point I'm making is I spent a good amout of money and the last thing I want to some high school kid, who thinks he's the "kewlest" or whatever walking around and being a jerk to people.

There was another ref with longer hair there who almost every time I thew a thunder b, went picked it up and gave it to me at the end of the session, thank you sir whoever you are.

Overall I enjoyed my sessions there with my youth students and they had a good time. My students and myself do not view the refs at Vanguard as professionals in any way. The front desk staff was young but very helpful and knew what they were doing.

TL;DR: two issues with vanguard: 1. if you are an "experienced player it's for younger kids, don't go, stick with AA games and the LC series 2. They need to get their refs organized and give them an attitude check

Just to clarify this post is not meant to "flame" or attack anyone at all, I am giving my review on the place from my perspective as an adult who has been airsofting for some time.

BGA is in, Ron is the reason I got into Mil Sim. Whoever is doing this, make it look good and professional or don't do it at all. Post up when you get a desgin.

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