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« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2005, 11:53:30 PM »
Desert Tiger works very well for the more scrubby desert, especially combined with properly "dulled" OD web gear (by "dulled" I mean lightly spraying the web gear with ultra-flat OD or khaki paint to take the shine off).  Three-color desert is better for pure sand, but tends to look very bright around Tucson.  Washed-out woodland BDUs would work OK.  Desert MARPAT is very good.  I'm going to get the TrueSpec version of the ACU and try that out as well.

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« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2005, 11:11:26 AM »
3 color my far, and start with forest style.
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« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2005, 11:35:09 AM »
forest style...?

do you mean woodland?
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« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2005, 12:27:11 PM »
Quote from: "creed_DET5"
Desert Tiger works very well for the more scrubby desert, especially combined with properly "dulled" OD web gear (by "dulled" I mean lightly spraying the web gear with ultra-flat OD or khaki paint to take the shine off).  


By nature, Cordura (and other Nylon cloths) have a bit of s sheen when viewed from different angles.  However, this "shine" is negligible, and should not be regarded as a means to give away your position.  It's not like you're wearing mirrors!  This will get naturally dulled as the fibers wear down and get filled with dust.

You don't need to paint your gear just because it's shiny when it's brand new!
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« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2005, 01:30:45 PM »
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You don't need to paint your gear just because it's shiny when it's brand new!

If you are like me and are always diving/going prone, your gear will probably be pretty damn dirty after the first game. One of the reasons I got OD gear was the versatility go with most uniforms, and its hard to make it look dirty. ;)
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« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2005, 02:06:29 PM »
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You don't need to paint your gear just because it's shiny when it's brand new!
If you are like me and are always diving/going prone, your gear will probably be pretty damn dirty after the first game. One of the reasons I got OD gear was the versatility go with most uniforms, and its hard to make it look dirty. ;)


No.  OD sucks.  It's looks OKAY with woodland, and absolutely terrible with desert!  

It's ok, lots of n00bs make the same mistake, when they should have gone to Brown Town!  8)
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« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2005, 03:02:02 PM »
I bought my LBV in OD (ohhhh...so many acronyms, this *must* be for real :-) for two reasons.  One, because I plan on using it both for woodland and desert environments.  Two, because at the time I couldn't find the IDF vest in brown/tan.  As for dulling/painting the nylon, the "shine" of new nylon is one reason.  The other is to break up the hard outline of the vest and help it blend in.

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« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2005, 03:58:13 PM »
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I bought my LBV in OD (ohhhh...so many acronyms, this *must* be for real :-) for two reasons.  One, because I plan on using it both for woodland and desert environments.  Two, because at the time I couldn't find the IDF vest in brown/tan.  As for dulling/painting the nylon, the "shine" of new nylon is one reason.  The other is to break up the hard outline of the vest and help it blend in.

-Chris


I guarantee that if you look around, you will find a rig that suits you better than the one you have now,  AND comes in Coyote.

I don't understand why everyone thinks OD works in a Desert environment!  It is terrible for anything but dense jungle and woodland foliage.
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« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2005, 04:21:40 PM »
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I don't understand why everyone thinks OD works in a Desert environment!  It is terrible for anything but dense jungle and woodland foliage.


We don't seem to have any true desert environments to play in. Pretty much everywhere we go, it seems that tan/desert players always stick out. But you're right, brown does work better.
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« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2005, 04:31:18 PM »
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I don't understand why everyone thinks OD works in a Desert environment!  It is terrible for anything but dense jungle and woodland foliage.

We don't seem to have any true desert environments to play in. Pretty much everywhere we go, it seems that tan/desert players always stick out.


Like a sore thumb!  It's going to be even more so with all this rain and all the green stuff growing.

Woodland works well in most areas, but can be too dark sometimes.  I got this brown gear, and when I get some ACUs I'll be like a ghost!  OOOOOH! :lol:

But seriously, I'm anxious to see the ACUs out in this desert scrub.
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« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2005, 04:35:13 PM »
I bathe in dirt before I play.... You guys may not have noticed but I use body paints for camo...

:) I couldn't resist!!!!
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« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2005, 04:46:01 PM »
Does dirt and face paint really give you an advantage in combat, or anything at all? I've not really any difference in combat other than them giving you a dirty, grimy face, which- in my opinion- is more of a hinderence.

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« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2005, 05:05:38 PM »
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Does dirt and face paint really give you an advantage in combat, or anything at all? I've not really any difference in combat other than them giving you a dirty, grimy face, which- in my opinion- is more of a hinderence.

-Gantaliano Hoff


No, as a matter of fact camoflague is just to look cool.  It serves no purpose, and should be disregarded.  

I mean, everyone knows that snipers just wear ghillies to look like Swamp Thing! 8)
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« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2005, 05:36:37 PM »
Movement will give you away WAY before camoflauge has a chance to be effective in most cases.  It is also useless to camo your whole body and either leave your hands ungloved or un camoed along with your rifle.  The long black line that your rifle makes is very easy to pick out.  Anything (Even just a few tan vertical stipes on your rifle and some tan/OD gloves) will help you be able to stay hidden, but once you start moving, nothing can really help that much.
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« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2005, 07:59:30 PM »
Faded OD green baby! I know AZSarge doesn't like it, but when it starts to fade, it works great in areas with a light to heavy cover of desert-type fauna. I can't really compare it to coyote brown, though, as I have yet to see someone totally decked out in it.

By the way sarge, one of the main reasons they pulled the OD green line from official issue was its tendency to fade extensively due to high sun exposure NOT because of its inability to camoflauge in jungle terrain. Also, the ERDL type (precursor to woodland) camo was the first camo to be UV treated which obviously extends its color
life by alot.
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