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Arizona Game Discussions => Local Games Listing/RSVP => Topic started by: Marauders Airsoft on September 20, 2006, 09:44:35 PM

Title: Airsoft Games October 7 at Marauders Airsoft
Post by: Marauders Airsoft on September 20, 2006, 09:44:35 PM: Marauders Airsoft has officially taken over Southwest Paintball. Join us this weekend at the field for airsoft games from 9 am - 2 pm.

Admission is still $20. Players can also buy an annual pass to the field for $150. The pass gets you into all Saturday games for free and a $20 discount on all operations and scenario games.

Here's our upcoming game and training schedule:

September 23 Games 9 am - 2 pm
October 7 Games 9 am - 2 pm
October 14 Games 10 am - 3 pm
October 15 SWAT 1 (PISG Training Center) 10 am - 2 pm
October 29 Ramadi Tales Scenario Game 9 am - 5 pm
November 11 SWAT 1 & 2 (PISG Training Center) 2 pm - 8 pm

Drop me a pm with questions or send an email to marauderstraining@yahoo.com
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Post by: Morgann0 on September 20, 2006, 10:08:47 PM: Just a thought,
Op Terror Shade is on the 28th, lots of people will be attending, its a 1PM to 1AM game, to have another game, Ramadi Tales (Sounds awesome) that starts the very next day, may loose out on some participants. I know I dont have it in me for two back to back extreme games, plus, thats alot of BBs...
Just a thought

EDIT: This was supposed to be a PM, oops....
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Post by: pilz on September 21, 2006, 03:36:13 PM: Will there be a carpool for this weekend?
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Post by: red36johnson on September 21, 2006, 03:50:23 PM: Quote from: "Morgann0"
Just a thought,
Op Terror Shade is on the 28th, lots of people will be attending, its a 6pm to 6am game,

EDIT: This was supposed to be a PM, oops....

Just a corection the Op terror shade is 1PM to 1AM
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Post by: Morgann0 on September 21, 2006, 04:43:26 PM: Yeah, I learned that after I posted this, I'll edit that...
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Post by: PolandsLeftTesticle on September 21, 2006, 04:44:23 PM: - I hope the Marauders put SWPB to good use. Not evil.

\PLT
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Post by: southpaw on September 21, 2006, 07:48:49 PM: can't go...
but me and my contingent want to get in a few games before we go to terror shade. i want to get everyone used to the environment of a scenario game. and you guys put on a BALLIN' SCENARIO at blood money.
so we might make on the 7th, and maybe the 21st too...

cant wait to play with you guys again!!!!
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Post by: red36johnson on September 21, 2006, 07:53:54 PM: Sorry... but where exacticly is mauraders airsoft field at(i looked on their site and i couldnt find anything and do we need to bring a waiver?

just kidding i know where it is i think is it at W. Bell Rd. & crozier Rd.
Surprise, AZ 85374
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Post by: pilz on September 21, 2006, 08:26:11 PM: Quote from: "red36johnson"
Sorry... but where exacticly is mauraders airsoft field at(i looked on their site and i couldnt find anything and do we need to bring a waiver?

just kidding i know where it is i think is it at W. Bell Rd. & crozier Rd.
Surprise, AZ 85374

go to marauders.us and download the waiver.
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Post by: red36johnson on September 21, 2006, 09:05:25 PM: so $20 Bring my own gear bring waiver be there at 8:45
on the 7th cant go to this weekend cause my awesome sister is coming with her cool husband and they're gonna stay till sunday and i get to see my brand new niece Kaylie she's so cute
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Post by: pilz on September 21, 2006, 09:23:12 PM: Quote from: "red36johnson"
so $20 Bring my own gear bring waiver be there at 8:45
on the 7th cant go to this weekend cause my awesome sister is coming with her cool husband and they're gonna stay till sunday and i get to see my brand new niece Kaylie she's so cute

ok..., that just sounded wierd.
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Post by: red36johnson on September 21, 2006, 09:29:49 PM: I think it makes perfect sence

Bring $20 for entrance fee...
Bring my gear...
bring waiver...
be there on the 7th at 8:45 15 min early...
i cant go this weekend cause of my sis and her husband and my niece
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Post by: Morgann0 on September 21, 2006, 09:49:44 PM: Quote
cant go to this weekend cause my awesome sister is coming with her cool husband and they're gonna stay till sunday and i get to see my brand new niece Kaylie she's so cute

Would you like some flowers and a skirt with that statement?

Nah, its cool, I'm pretty gay too, I cook. Well.
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Post by: Vince on September 21, 2006, 09:50:56 PM: I don't know cooking and homosexuality have any correlation, cooking was my job when I had one.

And while I've made my fair share of zingers and I can see the "lol point proven!~~~~11" a mile away, honestly, there's many things gayer than being able to cook well. Girls/women like being cooked for, man. Cultivate that skill and not only will you get that benefit, but the people you will meet in your adult life, as I am finding, gravitate towards a good cook.
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Post by: red36johnson on September 21, 2006, 09:52:56 PM: Quote from: "Morgann0"
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cant go to this weekend cause my awesome sister is coming with her cool husband and they're gonna stay till sunday and i get to see my brand new niece Kaylie she's so cute

Would you like some flowers and a skirt with that statement?

Nah, its cool, I'm pretty gay too, I cook. Well.

thats okay you can be gay by yourself... and cooking is awesome i wish that i could cook id never go hungry
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Post by: ValhallenAngel on September 21, 2006, 11:06:15 PM: Dude, whats up with the game? I'd actually like more info on it, not on everyone turning homo.
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Post by: babybackribs on September 21, 2006, 11:23:21 PM: Quote from: "red36johnson"
Sorry... but where exacticly is mauraders airsoft field at(i looked on their site and i couldnt find anything and do we need to bring a waiver?

just kidding i know where it is i think is it at W. Bell Rd. & crozier Rd.
Surprise, AZ 85374

Just go to southwestpaintball.com. They have a waiver there and a map. Also, forgot to add, you must have SEALED eye protection to play at SWPB.
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Post by: Doc Hollywood on September 21, 2006, 11:57:33 PM: Quote from: "Vince"
I don't know cooking and homosexuality have any correlation, cooking was my job when I had one.

And while I've made my fair share of zingers and I can see the "lol point proven!~~~~11" a mile away, honestly, there's many things gayer than being able to cook well. Girls/women like being cooked for, man. Cultivate that skill and not only will you get that benefit, but the people you will meet in your adult life, as I am finding, gravitate towards a good cook.

damn..... let the secret out and everyone will be cooking......

seriously tho.....
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Post by: Marauders Airsoft on September 22, 2006, 07:26:24 AM: Games this weekend at Marauders Airsoft (old Southwest Paintball Field) will be a series of small 30 minute missions with breaks in between.

Missions will include securing an ammo dump, rescuing hostages from insurgents, defending a location during a mortar attack, VIP Escort through town with IED's.

Players will be divided amongst teams according to uniform and equipment. We will also play a number of games that are simple force on force games.

Send me a pm if you have specific questions about the game.
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Post by: babybackribs on September 22, 2006, 03:27:10 PM: Is the no hicap rule still in effect?
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Post by: pilz on September 22, 2006, 03:29:53 PM: this is a change form the normal games. But change can be good and bad.
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Post by: Doc Hollywood on September 22, 2006, 06:10:19 PM: I believe the no hi-cap rule remains in place, but if thats all someone has we usually restrict them to semi-auto only.
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Post by: red36johnson on September 22, 2006, 09:00:56 PM: What does hi-cap mean im guessing no hi capacity mags which is gay cause i only have hi-caps and no full auto lame ill still go on the 7th though ill have to buy non hi cap mags...
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Post by: supporter on September 22, 2006, 09:04:15 PM: Quote from: "red36johnson"
What does hi-cap mean im guessing no hi capacity mags which is gay cause i only have hi-caps and no full auto lame ill still go on the 7th though ill have to buy non hi cap mags...

Hi-Cap is anything over 100 round mags. I got a few 30 round mags if you need em. PM me for details.
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Post by: Uchiha Itachi on September 22, 2006, 09:41:31 PM: Quote from: "Doc Hollywood"
I believe the no hi-cap rule remains in place, but if thats all someone has we usually restrict them to semi-auto only.

Are you guys seriously gonna be rule nazi's with this. I use hi-caps but only fire 5 or 3 round bursts. I just don't want to carry a bunch of magizines since I just play to play.
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Post by: Popapalooza on September 22, 2006, 09:42:48 PM: Quote from: "Uchiha Itachi"
Quote from: "Doc Hollywood"
I believe the no hi-cap rule remains in place, but if thats all someone has we usually restrict them to semi-auto only.

Are you guys seriously gonna be rule nazi's with this. I use hi-caps but only fire 5 or 3 round bursts. I just don't want to carry a bunch of magizines since I just play to play.

their not "rule nazi's" they just want to keep the games as milsim as possible.
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Post by: Uchiha Itachi on September 22, 2006, 09:51:54 PM: Quote from: "Popapalooza"
Quote from: "Uchiha Itachi"
Quote from: "Doc Hollywood"
I believe the no hi-cap rule remains in place, but if thats all someone has we usually restrict them to semi-auto only.

Are you guys seriously gonna be rule nazi's with this. I use hi-caps but only fire 5 or 3 round bursts. I just don't want to carry a bunch of magizines since I just play to play.

their not "rule nazi's" they just want to keep the games as milsim as possible.

That rule was thrown out when they gave us guidelines. Since I don't full auto I don't see a problem with it.
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Post by: Doc Hollywood on September 23, 2006, 12:26:43 AM: Quote from: "Uchiha Itachi"
Quote from: "Doc Hollywood"
I believe the no hi-cap rule remains in place, but if thats all someone has we usually restrict them to semi-auto only.

Are you guys seriously gonna be rule nazi's with this. I use hi-caps but only fire 5 or 3 round bursts. I just don't want to carry a bunch of magizines since I just play to play.

Its our field - our rules. We dont HAVE to explain them, but yes, we strive for more mil-sim. Our rules are essentially a duplication of the Lionclaws series op rules

If you don't like the rules you don't have to come out. The rules are not open to discussion.
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Post by: wtf_azn1 on September 23, 2006, 08:20:31 AM: do u have to wear BDUs to the regular games
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Post by: babybackribs on September 23, 2006, 10:46:16 AM: Quote from: "supporter"
Quote from: "red36johnson"
What does hi-cap mean im guessing no hi capacity mags which is gay cause i only have hi-caps and no full auto lame ill still go on the 7th though ill have to buy non hi cap mags...

Hi-Cap is anything over 100 round mags. I got a few 30 round mags if you need em. PM me for details.

No, a hicap is any mag that has to have a wheel wound on the bottom to feed, drum mag, electric feeding drum mags, etc. Basically, any mag that needs to be wound to work.
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Post by: Morgann0 on September 23, 2006, 08:18:58 PM: No, not necessarily. High Capacity means anything that holds lots of BBs. Just because it winds dosn't mean its can hold 100s of BBs, although that is almost always the case. I have an UZI that can hold 250BBs and it dosn't wind. Is that low cap? No. No it is not. Hi-Cap must have a referance. How many BB can a mag hold before it is qualified as High Capacity? Where do we draw the line between low-cap and mid-cap? If anyone knows how many BBs a mag holds until it is labeled as Hi-Cap. Please share.
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Post by: Marauders Airsoft on September 23, 2006, 08:54:55 PM: For clarification on game rules. We allow high capacity and winding magazines on Saturday games that are not milsim or scenario games.

During large events, we restrict magazine usage to non-winding magazines. If you have a specific question about a magazine at a game send me a pm.

Less talk, more airsoft! See you on October 7th!
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Post by: pilz on September 23, 2006, 10:06:18 PM: Quote from: "Morgann0"
No, not necessarily. High Capacity means anything that holds lots of BBs. Just because it winds dosn't mean its can hold 100s of BBs, although that is almost always the case. I have an UZI that can hold 250BBs and it dosn't wind. Is that low cap? No. No it is not. Hi-Cap must have a referance. How many BB can a mag hold before it is qualified as High Capacity? Where do we draw the line between low-cap and mid-cap? If anyone knows how many BBs a mag holds until it is labeled as Hi-Cap. Please share.

Tm uzi mags hold 220bb's
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Post by: Doc Hollywood on September 24, 2006, 12:09:02 AM: "Hi-Cap" magazine restrictions, when in fact in place, are directed to winding type magazines of any BB capacity. Any "non-winding" mag, whether standard/low-cap, or mid-cap, that does not wind to feed the bb's, is not a "hi-cap" for purposes of mil-sim.

Its not about the amount of bb's... not yet anyway.
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Post by: babybackribs on September 24, 2006, 01:24:26 AM: Quote from: "Morgann0"
No, not necessarily. High Capacity means anything that holds lots of BBs. Just because it winds dosn't mean its can hold 100s of BBs, although that is almost always the case. I have an UZI that can hold 250BBs and it dosn't wind. Is that low cap? No. No it is not. Hi-Cap must have a referance. How many BB can a mag hold before it is qualified as High Capacity? Where do we draw the line between low-cap and mid-cap? If anyone knows how many BBs a mag holds until it is labeled as Hi-Cap. Please share.

I dunno what Uzi you're using, but that is not an AEG. And a hicap is any mag that winds, look on any site and you will see.
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Post by: red36johnson on September 25, 2006, 01:50:57 PM: Sorry the pm is not working but any way

We're supposed to bring $20 to enter?

No hi-cap(nothing that windes up or electric etc...)

400 fps tops for AEGs GBBs and NBBs

Anything else????
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Post by: pilz on September 25, 2006, 03:24:35 PM: Quote from: "red36johnson"
Sorry the pm is not working but any way

We're supposed to bring $20 to enter?

No hi-cap(nothing that windes up or electric etc...)

400 fps tops for AEGs GBBs and NBBs

Anything else????

The fps limit is 375 fps with .25bb's, and yes the feild fee is $20. hi cap are allowed as far as i know on satruday games only. And they are not allowed at big games like SandStorm.
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Post by: babybackribs on September 25, 2006, 05:14:30 PM: If you bring them to the Saturday games, then you can only use semi with hicaps.
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Post by: Popapalooza on September 26, 2006, 07:57:35 AM: so the 7th of october is on saturday? I'm a solid maybe for green (have to check my schedule)
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Post by: pilz on September 26, 2006, 03:43:16 PM: Quote from: "babybackribs"
If you bring them to the Saturday games, then you can only use semi with hicaps.

But if tis a m14 thats all you need.
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Post by: babybackribs on September 26, 2006, 03:50:26 PM: Quote from: "pilz"
Quote from: "babybackribs"
If you bring them to the Saturday games, then you can only use semi with hicaps.
But if tis a m14 thats all you need.

No, ya think?
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Post by: pilz on September 26, 2006, 03:51:45 PM: Quote from: "babybackribs"
Quote from: "pilz"
Quote from: "babybackribs"
If you bring them to the Saturday games, then you can only use semi with hicaps.
But if tis a m14 thats all you need.
No, ya think?

Maybe not for me, but thats why im using standards, A Hicap would mess up the fact that i haven't used one since may.
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Post by: red36johnson on September 28, 2006, 10:12:26 PM: Quote from: "babybackribs"
Quote from: "red36johnson"
Sorry... but where exacticly is mauraders airsoft field at(i looked on their site and i couldnt find anything and do we need to bring a waiver?

just kidding i know where it is i think is it at W. Bell Rd. & crozier Rd.
Surprise, AZ 85374
Just go to southwestpaintball.com. They have a waiver there and a map. Also, forgot to add, you must have SEALED eye protection to play at SWPB.

I dont know about you guys but the SWBP site is no help at all its just a bunch of links to other stuff and i searched and it was no help so yea
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Post by: Doc Hollywood on September 28, 2006, 10:59:41 PM: Thats because there is no more paintball.

More info should be up soon at www.marauders.us (http://www.marauders.us)

We will have waivers available at the field.
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Post by: Uchiha Itachi on October 01, 2006, 04:34:27 PM: Ill prob. be going the 7th to blow off time......there is going be a freaken wedding in my backyard and I want no part of it.
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Post by: Whiskey11 on October 02, 2006, 07:20:23 AM: I'm gonna try and make it out to the game on the 7th. I just hope my M4 decides to work all weekend and not just the few shots I took after fixing the contacts again. . . =) Does anyone sell BB's at the field?
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Post by: babybackribs on October 02, 2006, 01:32:58 PM: No, it's bring your own.
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Post by: Brando on October 02, 2006, 02:24:38 PM: hey i i bet tho you could ask someone thats going to bring an extra bag and buy it off them.
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Post by: Marauders Airsoft on October 02, 2006, 08:10:40 PM: Marauders Airsoft is back from Operation Irene IV and ready for some games this Saturday at our field. To get to the field, drive west on Bell Road past 200th Avenue and turn right onto Crozier Road. Follow the dirt road 2 miles until you come to the field.

Registration opens at 9 am. Open games are $20 for the general public.
Games will end at 2 pm. See you there!
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Post by: Marauders Airsoft on October 03, 2006, 10:53:12 AM: If you are planning to attend the game this Saturday, send me a pm with your uniform color and type of weapon. This will help our staff coordinate what type of games will be held this weekend.

We will have at least one VIP Escort, Raid on Ammo Dump, and Attack and Defend game. Based on the total numbers of players and skill level, we may also have some large force on force games.
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Post by: SharmanAJUSMC on October 03, 2006, 11:19:04 AM: my brother and I will be attending the game on saturday, he is 16 so ill have to get a waiver for him, would i just bring that along with us to the field?

myself green digis, CA M249, high capa 5.1
brother green digis, SRC m4, WA infinity
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Post by: Whiskey11 on October 03, 2006, 02:05:03 PM: Scrap my attendence, personal stuff came up not to mention the mounds of HW... maybe next time!
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Post by: Doc Hollywood on October 03, 2006, 02:33:07 PM: Quote from: "SharmanAJUSMC"
my brother and I will be attending the game on saturday, he is 16 so ill have to get a waiver for him, would i just bring that along with us to the field?

myself green digis, CA M249, high capa 5.1
brother green digis, SRC m4, WA infinity

Yes, bring the waiver. I prefer that the waiver is signed by a parent.
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Post by: SharmanAJUSMC on October 03, 2006, 02:35:04 PM: ok i was just on the marauder's website, i didnt see the waiver, im i just blind ?
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Post by: wtf_azn1 on October 03, 2006, 09:46:04 PM: ill be there with some friends

me, desert, SVD/AK-47
friend1,desert camo,CA AUG
friend2,desert camo, CA mp5sds
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Post by: pilz on October 03, 2006, 10:03:52 PM: I will be there SOC 16 desert 6 color.
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Post by: Marauders Airsoft on October 04, 2006, 01:49:37 PM: The waiver at www.marauders.us (http://www.marauders.us) is on the Sand Storm details page. Our website should be updated after this weekend.
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Post by: red36johnson on October 04, 2006, 05:51:00 PM: I'll be there.

woodland, AK-47

(I cant wait till i have money to buy my Full metal
CA M15A4 R.I.S. w/ granade laundcher)
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Post by: red36johnson on October 06, 2006, 09:09:10 AM: Uno questionaro. Can mi mama leave once everything is hashed out at the begining or does she have to stay for all the games?
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Post by: red36johnson on October 06, 2006, 10:06:22 AM: Is this where I'm supposed to go?
Zoom in to the end location and look and tell me.
http://www.mapquest.com/directions/main ... z&2z=&r=fd (http://www.mapquest.com/directions/main.adp?go=1&do=nw&rmm=1&un=m&cl=EN&ct=NA&rsres=1&1ffi=&1l=&1g=&1pl=&1v=&1n=&2ffi=&2l=&2g=&2pl=&2v=&2n=&1pn=&1a=&1c=flagstaff&1s=AZ&1z=86004&2pn=&2a=W.+Bell+Rd+%26+Crozier+Rd&2c=surprise&2s=az&2z=&r=fd)
after you i get to crozier rd. turn right/noth and drive two miles and you should find a parking lot full of cars and people
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Post by: Brando on October 06, 2006, 11:40:09 AM: Yeah thats the road. just hit that dirt road and it will end at the field. I believe your mom can leave once the fills out the waiver but im not 100% sure on that
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Post by: Brando on October 06, 2006, 11:44:31 AM: Yeah thats the road. just hit that dirt road and it will end at the field. I believe your mom can leave once the fills out the waiver but im not 100% sure on that
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Post by: Marauders Airsoft on October 06, 2006, 01:09:13 PM: Currently, it looks as if we have about 20 players who have reserved spaces for the game. There might be a few walk on players as usual. Don't forget to bring SEALED eye protection.

Students in Free Enterprise will be selling drinks and snacks at the game.

You can also bring old gear to sell at the Airsoft SWAP meet.

See you tomorrow.
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Post by: Daytr8er on October 06, 2006, 06:50:58 PM: Well, Ive never been to a Marauders game before, so I'm going to give it a whirl. Is there any camo prefered? There wasn't too much info on the game itself, so I'll assume that I just show up. By the way, I'm coming from the westside (I-10 and the 101) should anyone need a ride.
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Post by: Gauge on October 06, 2006, 07:43:39 PM: Man I want to go... I wanted to break out the digital camouflage even though I don't have a MARPAT helmet cover yet, for this game but I don't have any sealed protective goggles yet. I wish ESS wasn't so damn hard to get a hold of. Everything else I've tried fogs so bad it's really more of a waste of time and money to pick them up.

Hey Daytr8er! isn't your quote a duke nukem line?
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Post by: Uchiha Itachi on October 06, 2006, 08:21:38 PM: Quote from: "Gauge"
Man I want to go... I wanted to break out the digital camouflage even though I don't have a MARPAT helmet cover yet, for this game but I don't have any sealed protective goggles yet. I wish ESS wasn't so damn hard to get a hold of. Everything else I've tried fogs so bad it's really more of a waste of time and money to pick them up.

Hey Daytr8er! isn't your quote a duke nukem line?

If you need a pair I have some. I have 2 full paintball masks and motocross goggles which I wear. Those goggles saved my right eye from a golfball size rock. I also think that the Marauders have some full masks since they did last time but ASK them before you go.
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Post by: Gauge on October 06, 2006, 08:51:16 PM: Quote from: "Uchiha Itachi"
Quote from: "Gauge"
Man I want to go... I wanted to break out the digital camouflage even though I don't have a MARPAT helmet cover yet, for this game but I don't have any sealed protective goggles yet. I wish ESS wasn't so damn hard to get a hold of. Everything else I've tried fogs so bad it's really more of a waste of time and money to pick them up.

Hey Daytr8er! isn't your quote a duke nukem line?

If you need a pair I have some. I have 2 full paintball masks and motocross goggles which I wear. Those goggles saved my right eye from a golfball size rock. I also think that the Marauders have some full masks since they did last time but ASK them before you go.

I'm cool but thanks!!! I'm going to swing by AZ Tactical as soon as they open to grab some of those new ESS Advancer goggles since they have a few in. Need to pick up a camelback anyways. I think I might be a little late to the game though since AZ Tac doesn't open until a bit later.
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Post by: Daytr8er on October 06, 2006, 09:57:41 PM: Quote from: "Gauge"
Hey Daytr8er! isn't your quote a duke nukem line?

It's from a John Carpenter B movie called "They Live"
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Post by: Gauge on October 06, 2006, 10:51:12 PM: Quote from: "Daytr8er"
Quote from: "Gauge"
Hey Daytr8er! isn't your quote a duke nukem line?

It's from a John Carpenter B movie called "They Live"

Bleh... I think I just let my age show... good stuff. Classic line.
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Post by: r4nd0m on October 07, 2006, 07:11:58 PM: Just wondering but what were the FPS limits out there at SW Paintball?
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Post by: Daytr8er on October 07, 2006, 08:10:23 PM: Just to drop a line...I had a blast guys! To be very honest, I was worried about all of the kids being there, but Mike did a terrific job of directing the entire day. You guys (Marauders) have definately got you stuff together. This was the most professional and well planned game I've been to.
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Post by: Uchiha Itachi on October 07, 2006, 08:22:40 PM: Quote from: "r4nd0m"
Just wondering but what were the FPS limits out there at SW Paintball?

I believe 375 with .25s.

And yea it was fun. Except being picked LAST even though I wounded/stopped the VIP by myself and was the only one to storm the base and kill almost everyone in it....
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Post by: Marauders Airsoft on October 07, 2006, 11:12:06 PM: Thank you to everyone who came out to Saturday's game at Marauders Airsoft (the old Southwest Paintball.) Although it was warm, we had about 8 ten minute force on force games and two small 30 minute missions.

Great job by all of the players adapting to the different games. My favorite part of the day was:

Ziggy "Demo is ready to blow!"

Kyle moving to demo - "Mike nothing is happening. I keep hitting the trigger, why is nothing happening"

Kyle - "Oh the detonator was off - my bad"

The next game is scheduled for next Saturday from 10 am - 3 pm. Same guidelines. I will be posting a new thread for discussion and posting of questions as this thread is getting a bit long.