[azsarge]

I can't remember exactly, but it could have been an SPR.  They are use alot by SEALs and SF, according to the pics I have seen, and what I have read.  Was this is it?:


This is an M4 SPR (Special Purpose Rifle).  M4 reciever, with a special kit and free-floating barrel.  Seen without suppressor attached.  Find out what rifle it was exaclty Frank, and I will help you as much as I can []

[Screwloose]

Im really not planning on spending that much on it.
So Christian, what length supressor do you think I should go with?  I was thinking 200mm would be long enough. Any longer and I think I would have trouble weilding the weapon in smaller spaces. As is last Sat I could not make a shot because it took me too long to manuver around a tree branch with my M4.

[HavHav]

Here is a picture of the snipers gun:

http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.co ... illis7.jpg


Looks like an SPR end (Whats the difference between a SPR and M16 end?)

[Screwloose]

Here is a better shot of the same Photo
http://www.allmovieportal.com/mp/2003_t ... n_016.html

Looks Like an M4 to me.

[busta_cap]

from watching the movie , its just an m4 with an extended stock, silencer, and most likely a red dot scope, im pretty sure it was a red dot scope, but if u watch the movie ull find out out cus u see thru the snipas recticle:)


PS, i like that m4 sniper, but in the end, id go with this one: http://www.allmovieportal.com/mp/2003_t ... n_010.html

lol

[busta_cap]

heres another pic, now im not sure, but i think the sniper had the same gun as bruce willis, look at his m4, looks like it has a rail system with a mini red dot scope or some sort and maybe a laser device at the end of that rail thing?


just helpin

http://www.allmovieportal.com/mp/2003_t ... n_006.html

[azsarge]

umm you guys...I hate to burst your bubble, but
a) that was no sniper and
b) that was a plain old M4A1 with RIS and an Aimpoint.  Suppressor was same size and shape of QD, but without stamped holes in suppressor sleeve.  There are several Quick Detach sups out there, but the one I am speaking of is the Knights variety.
The sniper rifle in TOS, as with many other SEALs and military personnel, was an M14 variant.  Possibly an M21, but there is no external differnce.  
On another note, snipers sometimes use an M4 or a variant of, instead of the primary M14, M21, M24, M82, M40, etc...
The spotter also uses them sometimes.  When this is the case, the weapon looks exactly like any other pimped-out M4.  
Cheers

[Harley]

Flea used a Leupold scope on his suppressed M4.  I can't remember the designation right now, but it was definetly a Leupold.

[azsarge]

Leupold Mark 4.  I remember the M14 (or M21 having a scope, but remember seeing an ACOG (TA55) on the M4 used by Flea.  I gotta watch it again I guess

[Harley]

Link had a suppressed M4 as well.  It was probaby his that you remember the ACOG on.  Flea definetly had the Leupold MK4.

[busta_cap]

hehe hey man i just rented the movie again, if you want, ill hook it up to the capture card on my comp, take a few in movie screenshots and post them or mail them to you, ill zoom and get different angles if ya need:)

ill let yall decide what it is

PS, sarge nice avatar:)

[busta_cap]

ok guys, took about a 100 pics, u owe me 1, jk and i narrowed it down, ive come to the conclusion that your thinking of the m4 sniper which had a silencer and small scope, pics of him and his rifle, then theres the real sniper, which by what i saw is most likely a m14 , m21 has a totaly different shape and is ususaly wood, and a scope(obviously) take a look for yourself

harley, right on about that 2nd sniper with the m14

ps also a few pics of the lt's gun which in the begging in the village he had two sights on it, just took one off in the village when he got there?

[azsarge]

1.  Whats the scope on that M4?  ACOG TA55?  I can see Butler Creek EYE and OBJ covers (note the red lever to flip cover up on the rear of the scope, above his eye in the bottom pic).
2.  The M14 and M21 have the same shape, Busta.  The M21 is an accurized M14.  You can put a wood or composite stock and a scope on either one.
3.  The two "sights" on AK Waters' M4 are an Aimpoint and a PVS-14 weapon mounted night vision scope.  I remember Bruce Willis taking the PVS-14 off right after the sun rises while he is talking with Monica Bellucci's character.  He also has an ARMS SWAN sleeve mounted.  The PVS is mounted via a QD mount, and the remains of the mount are visible after the PVS itself is removed.
4.  I wouldn't call the guy with the M4 in the tree a "sniper".  He has a scope on his rifle, big deal.  So des everyone else in this MOVIE.  Let me re-state that it is a MOVIE.  While accurate in many instances, its still a film, not real.  I must say, however, that the costume team for TOS did a very good job.  All the gear, even the Helos, was recreated believeably.  
For +5 points, can anyone name the helos?  (I will need more than just "A Navy Blackhawk" to give the points away [])
Cheers!

[Harley]

One of them, I thought it was Flea had the Leupold MK4

http://www.leupold.com/products/tactica ... 3x14mm.htm

Maybe it was Zeek?  I don't know what that scope is Flea is using.

[Harley]

The Navy calls their Helos Sea Hawks, not Black Hawks, but I know there's another designation which eludes me at this time... are you referring to LAMPS?

General Characteristics:
Primary Function: Varies with the particular military service
Contractor: Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation (airframe); General Electric Company (engines); IBM Corporation (avionics components)
Power plant: Two General Electric T700-GE-700 or T700-GE-701C engines
Thrust: Up to 1,940 shaft horsepower
Length: 64 feet 10 inches (19.6 meters)
Height: Varies with the version; from 13 to 17 feet (3.9 to 5.1 meters)
Rotor diameter: 53 feet 8 inches (16.4 meters)
Weight: Varies; 21,000 to 23,000 pounds (9,450 to 10,350 kg)
Speed: 180 knots maximum
Range: Generally about 380 nautical miles (600 km); range becomes unlimited with air refueling capability.
Armament: Usually two 7.62mm machine guns mounted in the windows; can also be equipped with AGM-114 Hellfire or AGM-119 Penguin missiles, three Mk46 or Mk 50 torpedoes or additional .50-caliber machine guns mounted in the doors
Crew: Three to four