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Harley:
Hey Vell correct me if I'm wrong.  Isn't expanding ammo forbidden due to the Geneva Convention?  I agree that expanding ammo would probably be better suited against some apponents versus Ball ammo.

"When I go home and people ask me why I do it, I don't say anything, they wouldn't understand.... it's about the men around you."

TheCrow:
Yes Harley, it is against the rules <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>.  But our troops, not the rule makers, are the ones out there risking their lives (sorry, I guess I am preaching to the converted).

I find it interesting that some guns we think are real cool, are actually pieces of crap (or close) when the chips are down.

Hearing about the desire for M203 buckshot loads makes me want an M79 with a vest full of grenades!

-The Crow


"Fear is for the enemy.  Fear and bullets."

KenCasper:
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Hey Vell correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't expanding ammo forbidden due to the Geneva Convention? I agree that expanding ammo would probably be better suited against some apponents versus Ball ammo.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana" size=2 id=quote>

 You are correct The "FMJ" or Full Metal Jacketed round was  made standard issue by the Geneva convention. Also out lawed or banned were Shotguns, "dum dum rounds", and .50 BMG use agains troops. The Geneva Convention was suppost to "Civialize" War. Is that really posible???

<img src="http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/mica/protect.gif" border=0>On the Eigth Day God creatated the Infantry, And the Gates of Hell opened and the Devil Snapped to  Attention!!!!
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TheCrow:
KC:

Shotguns, with buckshot, are still legal.  The pointman of a SEAL squad usually carries one.

Also, to add to the expanding round info, our special ops guys do use hollow-point .45 rounds in the SOCOM pistol for sentry removal.

-The Crow


"Fear is for the enemy.  Fear and bullets."

RangerSparky:
tthe way my recruiter explains the relation of .50 cal and the Geniva is: "the Geniva convention regulates .50 cal for use agains equipment only. Thus, when questions, you were shooting at the enemy's gun, knife, or weapon, not him... the high penetration happened to pass through the equipment and into him." He also explained a technicallity that clothing is equipment. <img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>

"When in doubt, Empty the Magazine." Don't use a cannon to kill a mosquito?! WHY NOT??!?

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