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« on: March 10, 2004, 08:19:22 PM »
One thing you forgot to mention is the fact that trigger control also relates to choosing when to fire and when not to.  I.E. keeping your finger off of the trigger and along the rail, or frame until you are ready to fire and sure of your target.

Another thing I would like to mention is that dry fireing or shooting your airsoft gun will help your trigger pull, only because it is repetition. Sure it wont help you to stop flinching when the gun goes bang and the slide flys back at you.  The fine motor function of pulling your finger straight back is getting exercise from the repitition though.

What I have noticed in several of my friends who I take shooing sometimes, is that after playing around with the airsoft guns their first shot with a real steal will be dead on.  After that though it all goes down hill because of the anticipation of the report.

So make of it what you will.
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2004, 09:08:40 PM »
Yeah!

What he said!

And Stop flinching, Suckas!
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2004, 10:19:05 PM »
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Why? Well, I've been told that I "fried" my brain somewhere in life. I was exposed to overly-loud noises somewhere which have instilled in me a subconscious fear of them. I dry fire fine, but as soon as some lead gets in that gun, things go south (literally). I print way low on the target, and that's something that can onlybe fixed with finger exercises, LOTS and LOTS of dry firing, and LOTS of range time. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Actually this can be correct but you need to do a lot of live fire shoot, not dry firing.  When I use to shoot competition I was at the range every weekend.  I got to the point that even shooting (acidentally mind you)without my ear muffs on it didn't faze me.  Now... not that I'm shooting regularly anymore, a stupid car backfiring can make me jump.  It's all part of conditioning yourself.  That's part of why operators train regularly,  to turn every action into an automatic instictive reaction and to condition themselves to ignore noise and other distractions.

Basher just go buy a case of cheap ammo and do as much shooting as you can.
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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2004, 05:42:54 PM »
Harley,

I'm saving, buddy. .40S&W ammo can be expensive! I have some of that Winchester value pack stuff, seems to work well. It's just finding the time to hit the range that's getting me.

All have made good points. I just wanted to make sure that some of the younger guys didn't go off and expect to be able to "qualify" with Grand Master type groups. I sure can't! LOL. Thanks for the input, gentlemen. If I had the time and money, I'd love to compete, but alas that will come much later in life. So I enjoy the outings when I can, even if I can only group with my rifles. [:P] Those rifle groups make up for the handgun groups, though. I can pull some fast ones. I just need to go from shooting wonderful 100 yard groups to being able to shoot wonderful 300+ yard groups. But I don't think that will be as hard as shootin' my pistolas. [:D]
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2004, 12:15:15 AM »
Nick, you're a good lad.  You tend to start interesting threads and your responses are either appreciative or informative.  Good example to your peers.  Keep shooting.  It's a fantastic sport and is one of the best methods for learning self control I know of.  Trigger control and self control...Raith could probably write up an eloquent-sounding paragraph on how closely related they are.
Anyway, thanks to you, and sorry for the hijacking.
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2004, 03:46:14 PM »
Kyle, thanks. I do what I can. [:P]

Maybe Raith will drop by and give us that paragraph, eh? [:D]

Since we're now officially on Spring Break, I'm going to try and hit the range a time or two. I'll see what comes of it.
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2004, 06:27:58 PM »
This may seem to come from out of nowhere, but I read a few posts lately that pertain to this, and thought that some of the younger guys may be intersted in it.

I've read a few posts from people who say that using their airsoft gun helps with trigger control. I'd like to point something out to them that may save them some embarassment later on.

Your airsoft gun doesn't help with trigger control much! This may come as a surprise to you, but allow me to explain why.

First, your airsoft gun has a trigger weight of probably around 3-4 pounds, less if it's a 1911 clone. If it's a Beretta or something else, the gap gets even wider. My real Beretta 96 has had some trigger work, and it still breaks a 5lbs. in single and about 11-12lbs. in doulbe action. You're airsoft gun probably hits 5lbs on double, max.

Second, you don't have to contend with passive firing pin blocks, which MAY raise trigger pull.

Third, you don't have live ammo to play with. How does this relate to trigger control? Easy. Allow me to explain this. I love my Beretta. I love my 422 and our (dad and I's) Buckmark. I like dad's .357. BUT, my wonderful dry-fire trigger pull vanishes on the range.

Why? Well, I've been told that I "fried" my brain somewhere in life. I was exposed to overly-loud noises somewhere which have instilled in me a subconscious fear of them. I dry fire fine, but as soon as some lead gets in that gun, things go south (literally). I print way low on the target, and that's something that can onlybe fixed with finger exercises, LOTS and LOTS of dry firing, and LOTS of range time.

So, don't be let down if you hit the range and you jerk all over the paper. It's not your airsoft gun's falt, it's yours! I don't know how many of you minors get to hit the range with any form of frequency, but you may already be an accomplished shot. If you don't go often, don't sell you airsoft gun if you print a weather report (bad group).

I just thought I'd give you all some first-hand experience. Some of you minors could use some. If you're truely intersted in real guns, take not. Every little bit now will help later. [:D]
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