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Offline Paco

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« on: September 06, 2003, 08:54:45 PM »
Decent gun, mags are HORRIBLE.  It's not worth it - trust me.
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2003, 09:03:52 PM »
THX PACO:)
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2003, 11:30:20 PM »
its 125.  They charge this much for every GBB they have.  I almost soiled myself when I read the price on the 93R.  $275!!!!  That is friggen outrageous.  About the gun handling thing, they should let you fire anything you want.  If you are gonna pay 125-150% of what you should be paying, they better let you test it out first.  INSIST UPON IT!
I have owned the pistol in topic.  I had solid kick (sought after by noobs), good accuracy, range, etc.  Then, I dropped it.  It would not work, and I could not get the sucker to take down.  I took it in for repair/replacement, and dropped it off.  they told me it would be about a week.  4 months later, It still wasn't in.  I got my money back and bought the KJW M9 (great choice!).  Test fire it there, and then buy one from airsplat, or MongooseOrders.  Its cheap, and its a good buy.  There are better pistols, but this one has served me well for about 3 years now.  I'm sure others can recommend a better GBB, but this one's my choice!

BTW the M9 mags are great!  I recently had one start leaking, so I opened it up, and replaced the o-ring MYSELF (no shop time required).  It works like a dream now.  I put a small ammount in there and left it for a week, still there when I released the gas after 7 days.  Keep the seals lubed with 100% Si oil (Paco recommends R/C shock oil, good advice), and you will be in great shape!
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2003, 10:03:45 AM »
yeah sarge i remmember you (i beleive saying that the m9 was a great choice, i know this seems kinda picky, but i really am kinda sick of the m9 or 9mm look, i like the H&K look, like the usp, but ill probably end up with a m9:), but when u said test fire it there then buy one from mongoose or airplat did u mean the m9 or the usp?
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2003, 12:17:10 PM »
either one, but I'd go for the M9.  I love the boxy, sleek look of the USP series, especially the Mk23!!  To me, guns don't get any sexier than the Mk23!  However, I love the M9 due to its functionality.  Not that many people have an M9.  Most in AA have the Glock 18C, well alot at least.  
Alot of noobs complain about how alot of peolple have one type of AEG, or GBB, and they want to be different.  What they fail to realize is that the reason everyone has a particular weapon is becasue it performs well.  The TM M4 rocks!  Yeah, almost everyone has one, but thats because its a sweet AEG.  With regards to the Glock 18C, I am not sure why everyone has those.  Sure its full auto, but most guys prefer to keep it realistic, and dont even use the full auto feature.  I hear problems about the slide popping off with platic slide versions as well.  When it comes down to it, its just a matter of preference, for everything we buy!  I try to go off photos of real SF operators, and buy gear/guns similar to what they have.  Its part of the fun for me.  There are guys, however that could care les about SF, and want to have a sweet P90 with a box mag, and a huge scope.  Its what they like.  You can ask for objective info regarding airsoft, like how reliable is something, and how durable (which BTW are still quite SUBjective), but when it comes down to it, its up to you to make the final call.  Buy what looks col to you.  With all the sale boards here, and trades always going on, you won't be stuck with something that doesn't suit you.  Buy what you think you want, and if it doesn't work out, trade it.  Alot of guys here buy and sell AEGs like theyre baseball cards.  Until they find one they love, they will continue to do so.  You are doing the right thing by asking questions like you have.  Make sure to keep them simple, and don;t ask stuff like "which should I get?" and "which one is better?".  Those answers are up to you!  All we can tell you is what to stay away from, and what are excellent pieces.  Just look around, look at some pics of you desire, and buy something you'll like :)   I hope this helps!  good luck
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2003, 12:23:36 PM »
u hit it dead on azsarge, i too love the sleek hella sexy look of the USP and mk23, only thing is, the mk23 is like cha ching!$$$, ive found it no less than 200 online:(, but i dunno, any other companies make h&k replicas or USP's?
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2003, 12:25:19 PM »
PM sent, Busta
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2003, 12:34:13 PM »
As an owner of a heavily used KJW USP I would not recomend it for a first GBB Busta. They have a netorious mag problem that takes massive amounts of fussin to keep working somewhat nicely. Of the Gbb's out there the KJW M9 series have good reviews, as does most TM or KSC pistols. The reason you see so many Glock GBB's is because they are very reliable compaired to most other GBB's.
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2003, 01:14:14 PM »
i tihnk im lookin into the TM socom with the LAM and silencer, even though its ABS, it seems like a great deal for a first gbb for under 120
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2003, 01:31:42 PM »
its not a GBB, its a NBB.  NON_ BLOWBACK.  You have to increase trigger pull, or rack the slide, or cock the hammer to fire.  Its semi-auto, so you can just pop away one after the other LIKE a gbb, but it does not actually blow back, so its not a GBB!
The LAM is LAME, but it looks cool on the pistol.  The lights on it are a JOKE, and are about as bright as a candle, so its just cosmetic.  Its a nice set, though.  The bet part is that the SOCOM works well with the included foam, and the shots are very, VERY quiet!  Its a big beast too, about the same size as a Desert Eagle!
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2003, 01:51:13 PM »
yeah sarge i know i meant to say Gas pistol but i was spaced out, pm sent, dont u have aim or yahoo or msn or something? i hate this pm Poo
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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2003, 02:52:12 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by azsarge</i>
<br />With regards to the Glock 18C, I am not sure why everyone has those.  Sure its full auto, but most guys prefer to keep it realistic, and dont even use the full auto feature.  <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Uhh...  azsarge, the Glock 18C IS a real weapon and the real Glock 18C is also full-auto...
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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2003, 03:05:04 PM »
Oh, I know, Paco. I just meant that I haven't ever really seen anyone go full-auto with the G18C GBB during a game.  By realistic I just meant double-tapping instead of a short auto burst.  

BTW, do the make an auto Glock without the compensator?  I also heard that a few PDs (in MN, I think) bought the C version of the G17, but were not pleased with the ammount of flash produced through the ports at night.  Any word about this?  I hear it reduces felt recoil significantly, but have not fired one myself.  I have fired the G17, and the recoil was quite bearable compared to the P226 and M9.  I know you are an avid steel fan, and would like to hear your thoughts (maybe through another post, or PM).
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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2003, 04:15:05 PM »
I own a G17C real steel and I have to say, night fire is impossible. You get one shot and lose your night sight. As far as the kick, it is slightly less but the big diff. is the barrel raise.

Just my 2 cents.
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KJW USP TACTICAL?
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2003, 08:34:16 PM »
yo guys went to command post (mesa) today and wandered around, as always there airsoft selection and prices blow, however one guy there was nice enough to take the KJW USP out of the case and let me handle it, nice and heavy, platic slide i believe, i found this one online for about 100 so im guessin kamikaze cus get it for cheaper but any thoughts on this GBB?
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