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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2004, 12:16:23 PM »
LOL nice rifle and scope.. I too noticed other than the rifle was the TOTS dvd menu.. Favorite movie of all time. Where did you go shooting at PACO?
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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2004, 12:21:38 PM »
Very, very nice system Jason.
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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2004, 12:38:50 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Harley</i>
<br />Offhand means shooting without a rest, not without sights.  If you can hold steady from the standing position and using your scope of course, see if you can hit the target then.  I prefer iron sights or a red dot for offhand shooting, and a scope for bench or bipod shooting.
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Yeah, I know what off-hand means but, read his post again:

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by SHIFTY1944</i>
<br />Very nice.Now for some real skill <u><b>try it without the scope</b></u>,and shooting offhand.If you can even hit the target,your the man!I can't do it.
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emphasis added.
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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2004, 01:41:37 PM »
I read it, that's why I also mentioned "not without sights".
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« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2004, 01:59:21 PM »
What impresses me more is that you've only been shooting for a relatively short time now and you managed that group.  That is good rifle control, amigo.  Nicely done.
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« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2004, 07:15:47 PM »
I don't know how you guys feel, but I think shooting with steel sights is a lot more fun than with scope. It helps you learn your gun. Nice gun paco.
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« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2004, 07:45:07 PM »
...just want to point out that, again, this Remington 700 has no iron sights.  It can't be shot without optics.  [:p]
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« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2004, 08:04:12 PM »
. . . Which is unfortunate. [:)] Try getting a 2" group at 100 with one of your AR's. That's tough (using the 0-200m aperture, not the 200m+ aperature). [:P] Off-hand, that is. I've never done it, but then again, I don't have an AR to play with yet. [:(]
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« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2004, 10:53:46 PM »
I can't get a 2" group @ 100 w/ an AR w/ open sights even from a benchrest! Regardless of ammo. But I can take that same ammo and put it in my Winchester Model 70 and shoot dime sized groups all day.

Personally, I enjoy shooting nice tight 4 or 5 round groups as much as anyone. But the REAL test of accuracy is in a "cold bore" bullseye. Try it at 100..then 200...then 300. Watch how hard THAT gets. If you ever have to use your gun to kill something, chances are you'll have a cold bore...not all nice and warmed up after shooting a few rounds through it.
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« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2004, 06:59:52 AM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Paco</i>
<br />...just want to point out that, again, this Remington 700 has no iron sights.  It can't be shot without optics.  [:p]
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Actually it CAN be shot without optics, whether you hit anything or not is a different story. [;)] [:p]
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« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2004, 07:03:33 AM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Basher</i>
<br />. . . Which is unfortunate. [:)] Try getting a 2" group at 100 with one of your AR's. That's tough (using the 0-200m aperture, not the 200m+ aperature). [:P] Off-hand, that is. I've never done it, but then again, I don't have an AR to play with yet. [:(]
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An AR can get decent groupings with aftermarket trigger packs.  I'm sure Paco's PSS has a sweet trigger running somewhere around 2lbs of pull.  I put a Jard trigger that I bought of Paco in my AR and it has a 2lb pull.  Very sweet to say the least.  I had another AR that had a JP trigger pack in it and shot better than 1/2 inch groups with the proper loads.
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« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2004, 02:26:51 PM »
Well done Jason!
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« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2004, 03:45:05 PM »
is there something I am missing, i didnt think tots was that good of a movie. theres no way the woulda survived in the end. but w.e. i prefer 1941 as war movies go..hahah. just playing,...i like three kings, saving pivate ryan, band of brothers, and black hawk down
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« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2004, 04:29:00 PM »
Let's not rehash that particular movie debate here.  It was a ridiculous debate, based more on what would have happened AFTER the seen events than on what happened on screen.  Wrong forum for it here anyway.
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« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2004, 06:47:15 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Legs</i>
<br />Let's not rehash that particular movie debate here.  It was a ridiculous debate, based more on what would have happened AFTER the seen events than on what happened on screen.  Wrong forum for it here anyway.
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Concur.

Wrong thread.
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