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Prospective player!
« on: May 21, 2010, 12:54:49 PM »
Hey all! My name is Rhys and I'm a 19 year old college student at ASU looking to get into the airsoft scene. I've always been interested in it, but have never really had the money, time, or contacts to really get into playing. That's all changed now and in a couple weeks I'll be getting my first decent gun: a Well Bell MB05 sniper rifle.
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Re: Prospective player!
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2010, 01:24:17 PM »
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Hey all! My name is Rhys and I'm a 19 year old college student at ASU looking to get into the airsoft scene. I've always been interested in it, but have never really had the money, time, or contacts to really get into playing. That's all changed now and in a couple weeks I'll be getting my first decent gun: a Well Bell MB05 sniper rifle.


Welcome. Well is an Ok brand, personally the experencies i have had with them aren't the best but i wish you luck with it and look foreward to seeing you around
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Re: Prospective player!
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2010, 02:17:10 PM »
playing a support position such as a DMR or "sniper" probably isnt the greatest idea for a newly starting player, you will probably get tired/bored very quickly.  


i would recommend getting an AEG (automatic electric gun, could be anything from a SMG to an AR) echo1 and JG are both great manufacturers for starting rifles.. but you will know within a game or two if you want to stay with the role of a marksman

as far as going to games, i would recommend rebel union's games for your first one, they are very laid back and chill. good group of guys to start playing with, they arent super heavy on mil-sim but its still a good time
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Re: Prospective player!
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2010, 02:21:19 PM »
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playing a support position such as a DMR or "sniper" probably isnt the greatest idea for a newly starting player, you will probably get tired/bored very quickly.  


i would recommend getting an AEG (automatic electric gun, could be anything from a SMG to an AR) echo1 and JG are both great manufacturers for starting rifles.. but you will know within a game or two if you want to stay with the role of a marksman

as far as going to games, i would recommend rebel union's games for your first one, they are very laid back and chill. good group of guys to start playing with, they arent super heavy on mil-sim but its still a good time

Says the guy who's gun always breaks lol,  ](*,)

I do agree though with what he says if you really are looking at the sniper/DMR role i would suggest and AEG like he said but gradually evolve into it through upgrading your rifle, that way if you don't like the support sniper/DMR you can still have a good assault rifle
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Re: Prospective player!
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2010, 02:25:25 PM »
I think nearly half of airsoft started playing wanting to be a 1337 OMG Snipzorz.

Then they realised sniping in airsoft is the most frustrating thing in the world.
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Re: Prospective player!
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2010, 02:49:37 PM »
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I think nearly half of airsoft started playing wanting to be a 1337 OMG Snipzorz.

Then they realised sniping in airsoft is the most frustrating thing in the world.

DMR/Support sniping (<-- Means NOT bolt action... highly accurate semi-auto fire) is one of the most fun roles. But also very difficult at times, and frustrating, and a lot of fields won't let you field a gun set up for true DMR/Sniping because of energy limits, and on top of that, building an effective DMR/Sniper platform is expensive, time consuming, and generally difficult.
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Re: Prospective player!
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2010, 03:03:25 PM »
Thanks for the replies! I'm fully aware that sniping could turn out to be quit a drag, but I'd still like to give it a shot. Would something like and M14 be a decent DMR to start out with? I haven't purchased my gun yet, so I'm open to suggestions.
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Re: Prospective player!
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2010, 03:09:11 PM »
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Thanks for the replies! I'm fully aware that sniping could turn out to be quit a drag, but I'd still like to give it a shot. Would something like and M14 be a decent DMR to start out with? I haven't purchased my gun yet, so I'm open to suggestions.


if you want to give a shot at the Scout/DMR role and possibly switch to a rifleman role a M14 would be a great choice to use as a platform, I dont know what your budget is, but G&G make some of the best M14's on the market. However if you are on a budget looking for a decent one to start with I recommend looking into Kart (they have JAE's and EBR's) or Echo 1 (E1 only has the SOCOM 16 model so it's a shorter barrel) CYMA have standard, and so do other clone manufacturers.


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Re: Prospective player!
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2010, 03:18:49 PM »
](*,)


that was the only day my g36k actually broke ON the field! come on now hahaha   :oops:
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Re: Prospective player!
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2010, 03:54:12 PM »
ahhh my reply magically disappeared! WTF!

I really like the M14 for a DMR, it is what I am running now. The full length Match barrel and some good internals means that you can outrange pretty much every one else with a AEG, while still being able to close and do horrible mean things to your snipers and other guys with support type weapons (IE RPK/L86 types)

I recommend going for a M16A1 though instead of the M14. It is lighter, and when it comes to mounting optics (something that is only marginally useful but still nice) it is a lot easier and a lot lighter. The standard M14 side saddle mount weighs 8 pounds or so. You still have the full stock on the M16A1, and you also still have a good length barrel.

The quality and consistency you need for a DMR is to the point that I don't recommend trying to do it "on the cheap" because it only leads to heartache. You need a very consistent set up to get your FPS to be a high consistent speed since most DMRs don't get any extra FPS bonuses. My M14 shoots 397 EVERY shot. This kind of consistency is the only way to try and DMR.

If you want to try and stick to an ECHO and DMR take a look at their AUGs. I shot an A2 for a while and had really really good luck with it. I would advise that if you pick up an M14 you take the full length one. The Socom looks cool, but it really doesn't have the barrel length to play DMR without a barrel extension/silencer.
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Re: Prospective player!
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2010, 04:09:52 PM »
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that was the only day my g36k actually broke ON the field! come on now hahaha   :oops:

Yeah i'm sure it is  :twisted:

Personally My DMR is an M4. it really is all about what kind of weapon you want to make a DMR out of
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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2010, 04:46:24 PM »
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However if you are on a budget looking for a decent one to start with I recommend looking into Kart (they have JAE's and EBR's) or Echo 1 (E1 only has the SOCOM 16 model so it's a shorter barrel) CYMA have standard, and so do other clone manufacturers.


http://www.airsoftgi.com/advanced_searc ... e2&x=0&y=0

Yeah, I was looking at the Kart EBR's (I LOVE the look of the gun), but I noticed on the site I saw them at that you can only use the charger provided (something about the battery and charger having inverted connections) and was hesitant to get them after reading that stock chargers can reduce the life of the battery.

Quote from: "steyraug223"
I would advise that if you pick up an M14 you take the full length one. The Socom looks cool, but it really doesn't have the barrel length to play DMR without a barrel extension/silencer.

Yeah, I wasn't planning on getting that one if I decided to get an M14, I'd much rather have better accuracy than better looks any day.
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Re: Prospective player!
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2010, 05:30:24 PM »
you're not going to find too many (if any at all) that will give you a DMR performance out of the box on a beginner's budget.

I'd look into a good quality gun that will take to upgrades without breaking the bank right off the bat. M16/M4 variants are pretty much the most common (along with ak's and g36's)... so you will find more people that can give first-hand advice about them.

EBR's tend to have a really weird way of connecting the grip/stock to the receivers... and it's one super tiny screw at a weird angle that makes it kind of a weak spot. So if you plan on not spending your games doing everything in your power to not trip/fall onto your gun... maybe start with something a little stronger body-wise IMO.


G&G combat machines are cheap mid-length M4's... and very good guns out of the box. accurate and decent rof... they're also pretty tough inside and out.
Dboys AK's are pretty good... I have one for sale, by the way ;), but the gearboxes sometimes come completely full of grease... or completely lacking it, and they have pretty inconsistent inner barrels stock (you might get an amazing one, you might get a crap one)
I've heard a lot about the G&P's... but I don't have any first-hand experience.

If you have a little more on the budget side of life, then KWA's are great. Easily the furthest shooting stock guns I have ever seen. They also have very good quality control and I've never seen one that didn't come out of the box shooting like most mildly-upgraded guns (hard, accurate, high rof, quality shimming and overall just a very nice construction). I don't recommend starting out with a KWA... it's easy to get spoiled, and it might end up that you don't like the sport (but that's only if you're crazy... or less crazy than us... you get what I'm sayin).
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Re: Prospective player!
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2010, 06:12:19 PM »
I'm definitely willing to put the time and money into making my gun fire as quickly and accurately as possible (albeit not all at once), however I'm really not interested in an AK/M4. I really like the patient, careful playstyle of a sniper in nearly all the games I've played for my PC, and figured that might transfer over to airsoft, but you guys have cast enough doubt in my mind to sway me from getting a bolt-action right away. :P That being said a DMR seems like the best choice so that if I do enjoy sniping I can continue to do it until a high quality bolt action is financially feasible.
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Re: Prospective player!
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2010, 06:59:17 PM »
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That being said a DMR seems like the best choice so that if I do enjoy sniping I can continue to do it until a high quality bolt action is financially feasible.

Exactly.

It's just frustrating when at BEST, a high quality bolt-action sniper system outranges a well built AEG sniper platform by 40-50 feet. And that frustration is multiplied by the people with mid-range high rate of fire guns who just lob 200bb's at you, and you get hit by one, if you miss once.

The ability to have a quickly corrected follow-up shot is paramount if it's gusty out.
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