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General Airsoft Discussion / Re: Vanguard Surrendering
« on: March 16, 2012, 07:33:21 PM »
Quote from: INFIDEL on March 16, 2012, 07:30:14 PM
i feel like your missing the point of the "surrender" here. its not in terms asking them to surrender or "die". the surrender is taking the place of shooting them. rather than point blanking them all you say "surrender" to each and it acts like you shot them.

I say if you can say surrender to each before they "shoot" back you got them. if you say surrender to 2 before you get killed then you got 2 out of 6. my 2 cents.
Infidel has the right idea. PSC, what if you do end up surrendering 6 people before they call it on your or shoot you? I've done it many many many times before it's diffidently possible. For those of you who have played with me at Vanguard, I say surrender more than I shoot because I'm always up in the enemies faces.

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General Airsoft Discussion / Re: Vanguard Surrendering
« on: March 16, 2012, 07:23:03 PM »
Quote from: PhoenixShadowCompany on March 16, 2012, 07:18:18 PM
Quote from: Ocean on March 16, 2012, 07:10:54 PM
Now I know there is always a problem at Vanguard about people not surrendering and just straight shooting you point blank. That's now what this thread is about.

Us Refs have been arguing about this for awhile and some of us do it in a different way, but I thought it would be best to ask you players.
Now, the way we run it as of now is; If you walk up to a group of (Lets say 6) players and surrender them all by saying "Surrender all of you!" that is a no go. I agree with that. But if you go up to them and say "Surrender, Surrender, Surrender, Surrender, Surrender, Surrender" then that should count. But for us we say it doesn't count and I don't particularly agree with that. Other Refs say that even if their backs are turned that it doesn't count.
I say that if you walk up to 6 people and surrender each of them individually before they, 1) Shoot or 2) Call surrender on you before you call it on them; it should count. In a real world situation if you walk up to 6 terrorists and shoot them before they shoot you, then you are alive and they are dead. Is this not the same situation?
What do you guys think? Do you think that you should only be able to surrender one person in a group or surrender the whole group as long as you call surrender on each individual player?

Please let me know guys this would really help me out a lot.
In no way shape or form is this a "Bash the Vanguard Ref" thread! All I want is your opinion on this matter so we can maybe change something around.

Think of it this way. In a reel situation if someone was to say to me surrender I wouldn't, Ide shoot. on that same level if 1 person try's to surrender 6 he him self is going to get shot. the surrender rule 9 times out of 10 in airsoft doesn't work. Its some what of a courteous type act however as stated before it doesn't work. Trying to enforce it is going to do nothing but cause more problems.  This is just PSC's 2 cents
I understand where you are coming from. But at Vanguard surrender rule is mandatory it is not optional. If a player does not honor the surrender rule then action is taken. This is strictly for Vanguard Surrenders not outdoors. In outdoors I would do exactly what you said.

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General Airsoft Discussion / Vanguard Surrendering
« on: March 16, 2012, 07:10:54 PM »
Now I know there is always a problem at Vanguard about people not surrendering and just straight shooting you point blank. That's now what this thread is about.

Us Refs have been arguing about this for awhile and some of us do it in a different way, but I thought it would be best to ask you players.
Now, the way we run it as of now is; If you walk up to a group of (Lets say 6) players and surrender them all by saying "Surrender all of you!" that is a no go. I agree with that. But if you go up to them and say "Surrender, Surrender, Surrender, Surrender, Surrender, Surrender" then that should count. But for us we say it doesn't count and I don't particularly agree with that. Other Refs say that even if their backs are turned that it doesn't count.
I say that if you walk up to 6 people and surrender each of them individually before they, 1) Shoot or 2) Call surrender on you before you call it on them; it should count. In a real world situation if you walk up to 6 terrorists and shoot them before they shoot you, then you are alive and they are dead. Is this not the same situation?
What do you guys think? Do you think that you should only be able to surrender one person in a group or surrender the whole group as long as you call surrender on each individual player?

Please let me know guys this would really help me out a lot.
In no way shape or form is this a "Bash the Vanguard Ref" thread! All I want is your opinion on this matter so we can maybe change something around.

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Airsoft Items FOR SALE / Re: HUGE sale!!!!!! Price drop on some things!
« on: March 05, 2012, 07:04:25 PM »
Forgot to do my bump....

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Airsoft Items FOR SALE / Re: extended glock mag for sale
« on: February 23, 2012, 06:50:31 PM »
I know Sigma said ATP (Glock 23) and I was confused as to whether it would fit a KJW glock 23? If he meant that that the ATP is based off a Glock 23 model, then it's not. It's based of a G17 model. So back to my question; will it fit a Glock 23? :)

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General Airsoft Discussion / Re: Cheater - Caught On Camera!
« on: February 23, 2012, 09:56:24 AM »
Vanguard is a ton of fun when people call their hits. But employees at Vanguard can't actually make people call their hits.

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General Airsoft Discussion / Re: KWA Full Metal M9 PTP - Professional Training Airsoft Pistol, Thoughts?
« on: February 20, 2012, 07:20:13 PM »
So I got the PTP. (I forgot I even made this thread....) Anyway I got it. And may I say I'm just so in love with this pistol I cannot bare it. Sadly I used it for about 2 weeks and then the feeding lip broke on the nozzle. Which in turn causes the BB's to not go into the chamber but into the side of the slide which in turn causes my guide rod to pop out. Good thing KWA has a 45 day warranty or I wouldn't be a very happy camper. Either way this gun is just amazing, best $160 I've ever spent on a pistol.

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Airsoft Items FOR SALE / Re: HUGE sale!!!!!! Price drop on some things!
« on: February 20, 2012, 11:41:42 AM »
I choose you! Go Bump!

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Airsoft Items FOR SALE / Re: HUGE sale!!!!!! Price drop on some things!
« on: February 13, 2012, 04:38:11 PM »
Price drop on Masada and M14!

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Airsoft Items WANTED / Re: ksc/kwa
« on: February 09, 2012, 10:39:44 PM »
I'm selling a KJW Glock 23 with 5 mags brand new everything other than upper slide and gas valve. Full black. Also comes with case. $190

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Airsoft Items FOR SALE / Re: HUGE sale!!!!!!
« on: February 08, 2012, 07:46:08 PM »
BUMP

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Airsoft Items WANTED / Re: WTB: GBB PISTOL
« on: February 08, 2012, 07:44:36 PM »
^

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Airsoft Items WANTED / Re: Pistol, or maybe a heavy machine gun
« on: February 02, 2012, 09:34:09 AM »
I have an awsome Glock 23 I'm selling. Check it out on my sale post. http://www.airsoftarizona.com/index.php?topic=32412.new#new

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Airsoft Items FOR SALE / Re: HUGE sale!!!!!!
« on: February 02, 2012, 09:33:34 AM »
UPDATE: The Glock 23 has some new features and a new price. Please check it out! Don't miss out on this amazing oportunity for an amazing gun!

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General Airsoft Game Discussion / Re: Vanguard, 2/11/12
« on: January 31, 2012, 07:36:34 PM »
Saturday night does have kids, but they are relatively good. As for the 16+ session, I'm not sure if it will happen; If it were to happen it would happen during the summer.

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