To add some levity to this:

Yes, Paypal will do what they can to protect a buyer (up to and inlcuding shutting down the seller's account). However, if the seller has already removed the money from the account (very possible considering shipping times) Paypal can do nothing for you. If the money is gone, then Paypal is helpless to get it back for you.

Just food for thought. I love paypal, and I use it for most online purchases, but you really have to understand their protection policies, and read carefully.

When I first started selling online via Paypal they made it so I was not able to remove the money from my account for two weeks or until I got positive feedback and confirmed delivery from a tracked shipment. They left it this way for several months until they realized I always got positive feedback and never had issues with my customers, now I get the money instantly. So if it is a new seller (possibly a scammer) this provision is also in place to protect your money. Still, be careful. And you can always submit someone to the better business bureau, if you really get scammed.

What exactly would this accomplish?  Ok, so you may be able to recognize a cheater before the game.  Then what?  You go home because there's a cheater there?  You certainly can't prevent him from playing.  Especially if you are at a pay to play field and he's already paid.  Going up to him and calling him out as a cheater isn't going to do anything, he already knows he cheats.  It's no different than people who cheat in online games.  Telling everyone he's a cheater doesn't do anything unless you've got someone with the authority to throw him out.  Don't get me wrong, I understand the frustration but I don't see how this would help unless you can get the field to ban the player in question.  It's really just so people can vent.

Stooping to their level does nothing but make you a bit of a dick.  While giving them a 203 to the face (or something similar) may give you a bit of enjoyment at their expense, it's not going to stop them from cheating.  More importantly if you catch an innocent player in the crossfire you're as likely to get in trouble as the cheater.  Airsoft is supposed to be a sport of honor.  The honorable thing to do is roll with the punches and keep playing.  Life isn't fair, anyone who says otherwise is selling something.  Finding ways to retaliate is no more honorable than the person cheating.  If the field has a ref/admin, tell them what happened.  That should be the end of it as far as you are concerned.

Exactly. Labeling someone as a cheater forever is also a problem because if they ever learn from their mistakes and stop cheating, that label won't go away. So if you happen to shoot at that player and miss, it doesn't matter because he's a "cheater" so even tho he was a hundred feet away and it was windy, he was cheating.

So what do players start doing.. cheating against the cheater. It's only fair, right?

No. The number one cause of cheating is labeling other players as cheaters and justifying cheating toward them in return. I've reffed a lot of games and the players I see not calling their hits the most are the ones who complain about other players cheating.

Call your hits. Set a good example if your opponent doesn't do the same.

yeah i posted up links on our private forum im putting together a shell for you guys to paint should be ready to send to you guys in feb.

Sounds good.

Just letting you guys know that we're now offering a cheaper alternative to patches for small airsoft teams who don't need more then twenty patches (or even 5...)



We sew velcro on the back and then heat press the patch with your designs or text. In some aspects it's the better then embroidery, like we can make smaller cleaner details. But the process also has it's flaws, like we can't do gradients or more then a few colors. If your worried about how it looks, we press the vinyl so hard into the twill (same backing material made for patches) and you can clearly see the texture through the vinyl. It looks great.

For the most part it's a better deal for small teams because you just can't get ten patches for less then $20 a patch, after all the setup and hidden fees. We offer no setup fees and no minimum order, meaning we'll make you just one patch for $5 if you like.

That's some cool sh$t. Going to start by sending my 1911 first. Then go from there.

Send me an email at MutinousCreations@Gmail.com when you're ready.

As a fellow airbrusher, you guys have some great looking stuff.  Do you laser cut all your stencils or something?  Very sharp work. 

On a side note, what brand of automotive clear do you guys use?  I've been been having trouble finding the flat clear at my local auto parts places.

Yes, I have machinery that I use to make shirts (and other stuff) that I also use to make stencils.

I use a PCL automotive flat clear.

Vibora, did you try Space Age?
I talked to Bri and they can also get XXXL+ shirts for us Fat Bastards.

I'll let you guys know when I update the website for pricing on the new sizes.