G&G M14 AEG in-development!!!

[Airsofter1]

But getting the parts down the road may end up costing you another 200 (at least)...  Then you are right back at 500.

[Firehead]

but i dont have the money to throw down on one lump sum. Besides...it may not be that great. I know maruis will hold up, becuase marui makes good stuff(from what i've seen, for the most part). Hopefully the price for the M14 will go down.

[azsarge]

Marui's are reliable, but not as durable as some players desire.  I'm sure the G&G will be mostly metal, with plastic composing nothing more than the stock.  

Marui, on the other hand, uses plastic like it's "goin' outta style".  Sure, I bought a Marui M4 for it's reliability, but ended up spending alot of cash to eliminate the (A) BS.  Today, the only plastic Marui piece is the sliding stock!

And who's to say the Marui will be so much less expensive?  Their latest AEG offereings are comparable in price to much better, ALL METAL airsoft guns by companies like G&P, G&G, and Classic Army.  I think TM needs to pay attention to this trend, because we are living in the day where people actually PLAY with these guns, and need something more durable!  If they cannot adapt, I see a dim future for TM!

[IcePlatinumSky]

Agreed, and G&G has started to show alot of promise in its gun making capablities. Its accesssories in after market parts has kicked some major butt.

 Look at marui on how long its taken them to address the hop up issue with there m4's, and yet there gear boxes tend to turn to poo.  The new s-sytem is nice but not for what your paying, in cash you should be getting an all metal body. Marui however, has impressed me with the accuracy of its newer GBB's such as 5.1 high cap.

Bottom line is dont knock it till you have tried it regarding the G&G M14. I cant see the internals for G&G being all that bad. I have an ak with G&G gears, and it gets SOME.

[creed_DET5]

Ummm...I hate to break this to you, but if you tried to construct an S-System from aftermarket parts, you'd end up forking out somewhere in the vicinity of $700.-  The SIRS, whether from Samurai or ICS, is close to $200.-  Then add the folding sights, enhanced ("LE Style") buttstock, one-piece metal barrel, etc. and you're looking at serious money.  The basic S-System, however, is around $320.- less battery.  Even with gearbox upgrades factored in, it's cheaper for me to buy an S-System M4 and convert my existing M4 to a short-barrel CQB gun than to buy a SIRS (plus accessories) for the M4 I have now and then buy a seperate CQB weapon.

On the subject of the M14, I'm going to wait until I have some data on the upcoming Hudson M14/M21.  Reports say it's going to be a gas-blowback, which IMO is a better choice for a marksman's weapon, since it eliminates the trigger lag all AEGs suffer (except for the PSG-1).

-Chris

[busta_cap]

But remember...being gas every shot taken will be less powerfull than the one before it.

[Firehead]

Well, not all of us want to use it for the purpose of marksmanship. My use would be for basic combat, which is what the m14 was designed for(yes, it would make a good sniper rifle, but not stock). For sniping, i'd imagine the hudson by far will be better than the AEG, simply becuase you will spend more getting the thing sniper quality accurate, then just buying the GBB version(which i'm guessing is going to be designed for the snipers out there, not us regular infantrymen).

[shoule02]

I would seriously consider the G&G M14 if I could turn it into this:  

[Firehead]

that would actually be kinda easy. I'm sure there will be tons of aftermarket parts to make an M1A Scout. All you reall do is shorten the barrel(make it semi auto for realism if you want), and put a ris mount on the handguard. I would do the same(just OD stock instead), if the parts came out, and it required little modification. That would be better on the marui, becuase if you don't like it that much, you didn't spend a crapload on stuff(compared to if you did that to the G&G M14).

[IcePlatinumSky]

Ummm...I hate to break this to you, but if you tried to construct an S-System from aftermarket parts, you'd end up forking out somewhere in the vicinity of $700.-  The SIRS, whether from Samurai or ICS, is close to $200.-  Then add the folding sights, enhanced ("LE Style") buttstock, one-piece metal barrel, etc. and you're looking at serious money.  The basic S-System, however, is around $320.- less battery.  Even with gearbox upgrades factored in, it's cheaper for me to buy an S-System M4 and convert my existing M4 to a short-barrel CQB gun than to buy a SIRS (plus accessories) for the M4 I have now and then buy a seperate CQB weapon.

On the subject of the M14, I'm going to wait until I have some data on the upcoming Hudson M14/M21.  Reports say it's going to be a gas-blowback, which IMO is a better choice for a marksman's weapon, since it eliminates the trigger lag all AEGs suffer (except for the PSG-1).

-Chris

This is true regarding if you were to try to build your own. I read much an this issue on RR. I did forget to take that into account, however, marui did not give you real sights. Just ones that they made built themselves which are somewhat un relistic when compaired to the real thing. Still I was trying to agree with what was said up above as far as it was compaired to prices or trends with other companies that there is not much difference. The SIR is still the most costly marui gun to come out dispite how much you maybe saving by not  building your own. People are looking for more metal, durablity, and less cost. Marui will still have to work on this!!!

[Airsofter1]

Japan has laws concerning the metal content of airsoft replicas, they can only have so much of it.  Thats why the SIR part of the Marui M4-S system in not all metal.  Its also the reason why we will probably never see a metal AEG from TM.

In Japan TM is the big dog, actually the only dog.  All the other manufacturers outside of Japan target the rest of the world...

[IcePlatinumSky]

I heard about that, but I was not sure if it was true or not.

[creed_DET5]

I didn't notice any slowdown with my Western Arms MEU/SOC pistol during extended firing.  Until it totally ran out of gas, that is.  It really depends on several factors.  First, what kind of gearbox is Marui going to use for their gun.  If it's an updated (and, one hopes, more rugged) version of the V4 gearbox, then trigger lag (aka "lock time" in real steel) isn't an issue.  The second factor is where Hudson is going to put the gas reservoir for their gun.  The buttstock is the obvious place, but given that M14 mags are larger than is really needed for an airsoft gun, they could also end up putting them in there (side note...where did Hudson put the gas source in their M3 Grease Gun?).  I'd rather see a magazine-based gas system, because it stands a better chance of avoiding the problem busta_cap mentioned.  Ultimately, the decision is going to have to wait until I get some feedback on the actual product.

Until then I'll just have to make do with a real one *smirk*

[Firehead]

(side note...where did Hudson put the gas source in their M3 Grease Gun?)

it is in the mag. The only disadvantage to a gas operated rifle is, what if its too cold for it to operate properly? That would be my biggest conern in owning on of these.

[busta_cap]