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Offline dajini

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« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2004, 12:06:03 PM »
Alright sounds good... where could we host the first game that is close to both of us? Hmmmmmm.... *goes into deep thought*
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« Reply #31 on: December 21, 2004, 06:23:42 PM »
Well let me think... :-k
We could find some state trust land somewhere....
I'll done some research!
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« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2004, 09:15:17 AM »
Just a suggestion: where ever you decide to play, notify the sherrif or local police that you will be playing AIRSOFT in that area. It goes a long way to helping your credibility with law enforcement and helps to keep airsoft legal for all involved.

Just a suggestion.
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« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2004, 02:26:35 PM »
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Just a suggestion: where ever you decide to play, notify the sherrif or local police that you will be playing AIRSOFT in that area. It goes a long way to helping your credibility with law enforcement and helps to keep airsoft legal for all involved.

Just a suggestion.


I'm sorry, but THAT IS A BIG FAT HAIRY BAD IDEA! My dad has been part of the police for 10 years, he says if you tell the police they will just say NO because they can! They will not put out an all-points-bulletin just because some kids are are playing airsoft! As long as you play on state trust land or private land (given permission from the owner of course), they will not bother you and if the cops do show up they will just tell you to be careful! Telling the cops or sherrif will not do you any good! Trust me, I tryed it! The police department just gave me a lecture! As long as you are wearing eye protection and playing away from houses of public parks, they won't make a big deal of it!
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« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2004, 02:44:02 PM »
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Just a suggestion: where ever you decide to play, notify the sherrif or local police that you will be playing AIRSOFT in that area. It goes a long way to helping your credibility with law enforcement and helps to keep airsoft legal for all involved.

Just a suggestion.

I'm sorry, but THAT IS A BIG FAT HAIRY BAD IDEA! My dad has been part of the police for 10 years, he says if you tell the police they will just say NO because they can! They will not put out an all-points-bulletin just because some kids are are playing airsoft! As long as you play on state trust land or private land (given permission from the owner of course), they will not bother you and if the cops do show up they will just tell you to be careful! Telling the cops or sherrif will not do you any good! Trust me, I tryed it! The police department just gave me a lecture! As long as you are wearing eye protection and playing away from houses of public parks, they won't make a big deal of it!


mmm....i love proving people wrong....

yes, its a VERY good idea. In prescott we properly informed the authorities and were treaty nicely, and were allowed to play airsoft. you are MORE likely to get kicked out of the area if you don't inform them. mmmm.....
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« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2004, 03:26:18 PM »
Yeah not to sound mean but I think it's better that we notify the police before we organize a game. I mean airsoft already has a bad reputation, we don't wanna make it any worse.
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« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2004, 05:44:23 PM »
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Quote from: "Bucket"
Just a suggestion: where ever you decide to play, notify the sherrif or local police that you will be playing AIRSOFT in that area. It goes a long way to helping your credibility with law enforcement and helps to keep airsoft legal for all involved.

Just a suggestion.

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I'm sorry, but THAT IS A BIG FAT HAIRY BAD IDEA! My dad has been part of the police for 10 years, he says if you tell the police they will just say NO because they can! They will not put out an all-points-bulletin just because some kids are are playing airsoft! As long as you play on state trust land or private land (given permission from the owner of course), they will not bother you and if the cops do show up they will just tell you to be careful! Telling the cops or sherrif will not do you any good! Trust me, I tryed it! The police department just gave me a lecture! As long as you are wearing eye protection and playing away from houses of public parks, they won't make a big deal of it!

mmm....i love proving people wrong....

yes, its a VERY good idea. In prescott we properly informed the authorities and were treaty nicely, and were allowed to play airsoft. you are MORE likely to get kicked out of the area if you don't inform them. mmmm.....

That might be well and good in your little town of mayberry but here in the BIG city the police don't want to hear about it! If you don't believe me, just ask any police here in Phoenix! O and stop being a smart@$$, Firehead! Your not police officer to my knowledge!

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Yeah not to sound mean but I think it's better that we notify the police before we organize a game. I mean airsoft already has a bad reputation, we don't wanna make it any worse.


Go ahead and contact them! They will just lecture you! I have been apporched by the police before when I was playing airsoft! Some hiker say there where "some kids playing with guns"! The police showed up and we were scared to death! One guy went over to explain what was going on. The police let us off with "be careful", "watch for people around" and let us countinue playing!
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« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2004, 06:05:38 PM »
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That might be well and good in your little town of mayberry but here in the BIG city the police don't want to hear about it! If you don't believe me, just ask any police here in Phoenix! O and stop being a smart@$$, Firehead! Your not police officer to my knowledge!

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Yeah not to sound mean but I think it's better that we notify the police before we organize a game. I mean airsoft already has a bad reputation, we don't wanna make it any worse.

Go ahead and contact them! They will just lecture you! I have been apporched by the police before when I was playing airsoft! Some hiker say there where "some kids playing with guns"! The police showed up and we were scared to death! One guy went over to explain what was going on. The police let us off with "be careful", "watch for people around" and let us countinue playing!


You're not a police officer to my knowledge.  Do you truly think that because your dad is a police officer, he knows everything?  I'm sure that he does not.  Besides, if you don't want the cops ruining your game because there are "some kids playing with guns", tell them that you'll be there ahead of time.  Some might just take note that there are kids playing a game of airsoft out there.  Shit, I'd rather be lectured over the phone then lectured during my playing time.

And this "be careful" and "watch for people around" you is exactly what you need to do.  You might not want to hear it, but it's the truth.
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« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2004, 06:18:59 PM »
I was thankful they let us off with "be careful"! When I called the phoenixpd they said NOT to play airsoft, PERIOD! If all you want to be stupid, that's fine! [smilie=armata_pdt_19.gif]
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« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2004, 06:50:21 PM »
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That might be well and good in your little town of mayberry but here in the BIG city the police don't want to hear about it! If you don't believe me, just ask any police here in Phoenix! O and stop being a smart@$$, Firehead! Your not police officer to my knowledge!
 


i have been on this earth longer than you have. and i've been in the big city, just recently i have moved into tim-buck-too. i'm not a little redneck, dont try to sound bigger than you are.  and for most people my age i'm decently versed in the law.

where do you play that hikers complain of "kids playing with guns"? if one complained, you are playing in a bad area. playing on state land isnt always the best idea, but when you do it, contact the authorities. You are MUCH more likely to get in some kind of trouble if you dont contact them. what would you do if a police officer ended up killing one of you becuase you "accidentally" pointed a realistic looking weapon at them?

you know why they probably say no to you guys? becuase your kids, and police officers for the most part, arent exactly friendly to kids. When someone like mikey, paco(is jason right?), or John(harley) informs, they do it in a much more adult tone, i'm sure of it.

damn kids....
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« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2004, 07:13:40 PM »
If your planning on playing with in the city limits, I feel that is a bad idea and an accident waiting to happen.  Everything you've just said cmptrdewd is why minors get a bad rap.  I dont want my fun to be ruined by the fact a 14 yr. old kid was shot by a police officer, who was playing airsoft in town.  So listen and listen very carefully.  Airsoft is not your local water gun fight and it must be taken seriously.  If you cant handle that, then maybe you should take up some other hobby.  

Play out of the city limits, notify the authorities and let them know what you plan on doing.
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« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2004, 08:02:59 PM »
Take it from me, all people -18.. I'm 17 and at 16, I had some MAJOR runin with the cops having to do with airsoft, and those are what I told AA about and the majority still think I'm a moron, which they have a huge right to. Just take it from me, a guy that learns on a trial and error basis, don't play in the city, 'less theres a damn good excuse.
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« Reply #42 on: December 22, 2004, 08:26:53 PM »
Well cmptrdewd, at AA we're suppost to be nice, and not call people names etc. Firehead knows what he's talking about and so do the rest of us.
To my knowledge, when an AA game is made, the police are notifyed. Do you think an organization such as this one would last if one of us were hurt by a police officer? A member of my family can tell you the seriousness of the situation due to my cousin being shot out of a tree, and killed because he pointed a clear plastic toy gun at a cop thinking they were playing cops & robbers (he was little).
Notify the police, or as Firehead said, find another sport.
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« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2004, 09:01:24 PM »
As AA has already stated, when they play they notify law enforcement, when SATAC has an event we notify law enforcement (Tucson area, and it ain't no hick town y'all  ;) ), and as far as I know whenever SWAIRTAC goes out they also notify law enforcement. None of us have ever had any trouble due to this fact and the fact that we all try to locate secluded areas to play.

However not being aware of this is what has caused alot of problems for Airsoft in California and New Jersey.

Take it how you will.
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« Reply #44 on: December 22, 2004, 09:05:32 PM »
Hello gentlemen, this would be cmptrdewd's dad.  If you would like to contact the police prior to a game, go for it. In my 11 years as a Phoennix Police Officer, (and no I don't know everything), a call about an airsoft game would be met with a don't do it. Not only that but, the info would never get to the street officer for that beat anyway.  Maybe other cities would treat this situation differently, but as for Phoenix it would cause more trouble than it would help.  If you see the Police, put down your airsoft and tell them you are playing a game, not a problem. Have fun and take care...
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