Gentlemen, if you've never been to my office before, the directions are as follows:

From the North valley.. Take 101 east to the 51 south. Exit Colter, turn right on Colter to 16th Street, turn left. Continue south on 16th Street past Cameback to Highland, turn left on Highland. East on Highland to 17th Street (before you cross over the 51) turn right. Kitchell is a two story grey building with a large red metal sculpture out front.

From the West valley.. Take I10 east to the 51 north. Exit Highland, turn left on Highland and cross over the 51. Your next left is 17th Street, turn left then turn left again into the first driveway. Kitchell is a two story grey building with a large red metal sculpture out front.

From the South valley.. Take I10 west to the 51 north. Exit Highland, turn left on Highland and cross over the 51. Your next left is 17th Street, turn left then turn left again into the first driveway. Kitchell is a two story grey building with a large red metal sculpture out front.

From the East Valley.. Take the 60 west to the I10 west (or take the 202 west) to the 51 north. Exit Highland, turn left on Highland and cross over the 51. Your next left is 17th Street, turn left then turn left again into the first driveway. Kitchell is a two story grey building with a large red metal sculpture out front.

This meeting is for LC4 squad leaders only (John Bovenzi, Mike Matheny, Curtis Greer, Scott Walton and Ed Voras). The meeting is at 6:00 pm or thereabouts. See you there.

Everybody else, don't feel left out. We'll be having other meetings to coordinate our activities and provide logistical planning.


Thanks,

TheRev

Ok guys...
I'm not sure if Kyle or Riggs owns the Ruger Mk1 NBB from Marushin (or maybe it's neither of you two), but I have a question. I recently purchased the "stainless" version of the Assassin model (with the integral suppressor). Apparently the one and only magazine I have for this baby burst a seal yesterday. In otherwords, when I try to gas it up, it immediately blows out the top. It's not a slow leak, but the moment I try to put some gas in, it comes right out (like there's no seal at all). I want to take it apart to fix it but I'm a little concerned about small springs and such. Any helpful suggestions?

TheRev

By the way, when I first got the gun, it worked fine. It's a powerful little cuss. Punched a hole through two pop cans sitting back to back.
I was told I could load green gas (hFC22) in it. Instead, I mixed part green with part 134A.

"I like to go to faraway lands, rich in ancient culture, and meet interesting and unique people who speak strange languages, and kill them"

I know 22 yr olds who don't use spell checker (and can't spell worth a hoot).

Welcome! Everything you need to know can be found in the "Resources" tab and the "Help Area" tab. Please feel free to avail yourself of these helpful guides. Next, formulate intelligent questions and place them in the appropriate forums so that the vast "Brain Trust" of AA can help guide you.

Soon you will be on your way to being able to converse intelligently with the other airsofters on this forum. Good Luck

TheRev

Two things before I lock this topic:

1. Anthony, you had no call to jump down HavHav's throat like that. You are not AZSarge. Regardless of your relationship with him, you have some pretty big shoes to fill before you will ever come close. The only reason I'm leaving your's and HavHav's comment there, is because I want people to see just how juvenile you kiddies can get. Even at the risk of looking bad to the airsofters outside AA or Arizona in general. This is one more reason why I am leaning more and more in the direction of wanting to ban minors from this site altogether.

2. HavHav, your comment and veiled threat to Anthony was absolutely wrong. Walk a mile in his shoes before you decide to start making value judgements on people. This forum is provided to all airsofters who have an interest in exchanging information, ideas and commentary. It is not a place to flame, threaten or judge other people or ideas. Learn and grow.

Ok, now this thread is locked...

TheRev

Calm down Ruiner, I don't think anyone was flaming Ron for the store being closed. We all know how hard Ron works to give us an alternative to the internet and SAD (SoftAir Depot). Ron's A1 in my book anyday. Harley is correct in his admonition to Joey and others reading this thread... Always call first. Just my 2 cents.

TheRev

The laws regarding "engaging" an intruder in your home are many and varied. As Lead said, there are an endless array of scenarios. It seems however, that there is one qualifying factor to all scenarios (at least here in Arizona), and that is... "Were you in fear for your life, or the lives of others". The law basically reads, "...if the action you take, would be the same action that another person, given similar circumstances, would consider reasonable and prudent..." For example: There was a case here in Arizona a few years ago in which a gentleman who owned a convenience store shot and killed a man for stealing a case of beer. The thief was running out of the store (his back to the clerk/owner), the owner ran after the thief, exited the store and shot the thief in the back two times, in the parking lot. After a few months of investigation, the Maricopa County Sheriffs Dept. arrested the clerk/owner. The charges were originally Murder, but were later lowered to voluntary manslaughter. The case is currently on appeal. There is a current court case involving a former Chandler police officer who shot and killed a woman in a Walgreens parking lot for allegedly trying to run him over with her car. His case revolves solely around the point we are discussing here. He was afraid for his life and thought he was in immediate danger of being killed or grievously injured. This case is still pending. The point is this... Even if the intruder is in your home, there must be every reasonable effort to afford the intruder the opportunity to escape. If they still pose a threat, even after escape is afforded, then, and only then, are you justified in taking their life. There is a rule in personal defense called the "21 foot rule". Your personal safety zone around you in a 360 degree sweep is considered to be 21 feet. This distance is not an arbitrary figure. It is considered the minimal distance that can be traveled, in one second, by a person with the means and werewithal to commit bodily harm and injury . If an assailant is within this boundary, then you are considered "at risk" and can justifiably respond to a threat (even to the point of killing that person, provided that action would be considered "reasonable and prudent"). So let's say a person with a knife is in your home and is within your "personal safety zone". It could possibly take that person 1 second or less to reach you with that knife, and commit bodily harm to your person. So, in this case, you would be justified in killing that person. But let's say that same knife wielding intruder is in your front yard. He's still within your personal safety zone, but he has the means to run away. Here's a gray area. Your personal safety zone is violated, but the intruder can run away easily. The Courts consider this scenario less of a threat than if the intruder is in your home. In this case, you may not be justified in killing the person (personally, in this case I would point the gun at the person and warn them off. If they refused to back down or run away, they would then be considered a threat and I believe I would be justified in shooting them, but that's just my opinion). As with any scenario, the legality of any action (whether or not it resulted in the death of an intruder) would be subject to the governing authorities. And, even if the homicide is considered justified by the governing authorities, that does not relieve you from having to answer to the Civil Courts. OJ Simpson was exhonerated by the Criminal Courts for the murder of Nicole Brown Simpson, but he lost the Civil Trial and ended up owing civil penalties. If you kill an intruder in your home because he threatened your life, you may not be charged in a criminal case, but that guys relatives can try to sue your pants off because you deprived them of a loved one by killing the scumbag in your own home. And in some cases, the scumbags relatives may win. Bernard Goetz (remember that name?) shot and wounded two youths in a subway in New York several years ago. Forget the fact that these "youth" had rap sheets longer than my arm, forget the fact that they were out after curfew, and forget the fact that they were trying to mug Mr. Goetz. He shot them causing one youth to lose half a lung, and the other to be permanently disabled and bound to a wheelchair. He (Goetz) was eventually exhonerated by the Criminal Courts in New York, but lost in the Civil Trial and had to pay tens of thousands of dollars in restitution and medical bills to the "victims" of his crime. So I guess the two "youths" finally mugged him anyways. Hope this answers your question.

The long and short of it is this... "Killing a man, even justifiably, is just the beginning. The consequences of which, though temporary, have a far more reaching sense of justice than the act itself"

TheRev

Yeah, what Mikey said...

I agree...

(Moderators, please feel free to delete this post. Wait, I am a moderator)

Aw crap! I'll have to delete it myself.

TheRev

The title page for AA has several of our sponsors listed (eg. Airsoft Extreme, WGC, etc.). You could try them, or our very own KamikazeSM (aka. Nick H) puts in orders every once in awhile, and he's pretty reasonable. Also, Jungletoy.com just opened their store here in the valley and they carry CA, TM AEG mags as well as GBB mags. Give them a try too.

Here's the thread for Jungletoy

http://www.airsoftarizona.com/forums/to ... IC_ID=4229

TheRev