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General Airsoft Arizona => Informational Links => Topic started by: Raith on March 04, 2003, 10:34:24 PM

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Post by: Raith on March 04, 2003, 10:34:24 PM: Hmmm... So are these considered version 4s? I've seen pictures of the supposed version 3 CA Armalites with white trades. Hopefully this will all equate to CA having more quality control.
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Post by: Harley on March 05, 2003, 03:10:20 AM: For those of you interested in some trivia. Armalite was the original developer of the AR15 which was also the original designation of the M16 before the military adopted it and put it into service. They sold the patent to Colt who made all the money on it. Ugene Stoner was the engineer who designed it as well as many other weapons. That is why Colt and the other companies who produce AR15's call them by that designation, "Armalite Rifle".
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Post by: Legs on March 05, 2003, 10:51:03 AM: And sadly enough, Stoner's original design for the rifle was drastically altered to make it what the military now uses. The Stoner rifle is vastly superior. Robinsons Arms offers their Expeditionary Rifle these days, and it is a very close clone of the original Stoner, with some improvements. It's the best modern example of the Stoner design.
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Post by: Wojo on March 05, 2003, 03:24:19 PM: Didnt the original one use carbon fiber? I remember watching that on TV awhile back... wasnt sure though.
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Post by: Raven1 on March 05, 2003, 03:29:53 PM: I will be looking to pick one up as soon as I sell my M40, been wanting an all metal body M4 for too long now!!
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Post by: Legs on March 05, 2003, 04:06:42 PM: These do look very, very nice.
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Post by: Harley on March 05, 2003, 10:40:14 PM: Actually Wojo, carbon fiber wasn't all that greatly used in the early 60's as far as I know. From what I've read the guns were manufactured pretty much the same as they have been up till recently, aluminum receivers, steel barrels, (although not chrome lined at that time), and I belive the stocks were fiberglass and not plastic in the very early stages. There is a company that is making complete upper and lower receivers made out of carbon fiber now, (can't recall the name).
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Post by: Yankee on March 06, 2003, 10:18:11 PM: Yeah the Robinson Aramament M96s are offered with the Bren top feed style configuration now, kinda cool. To convert a '56 Stoner from left hand feed to right hand feed costs about 11k for the kit alone right now, so for a unique feed option these days the '96 would probably be a good idea. A shame we ended up with the M16s in Vietnam, if it weren't for political circumstances we could have been packing FNs. Too bad.
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Post by: Harley on March 06, 2003, 10:36:43 PM: I've been fortunate enough to have had the pleasure of firing several full auto weapons. It's true that the M16 was plagued with several issues in the beginning. Once these issues were dealt with it has become a great weapon for the modern soldier. The M14 for example is a fantastic weapon. It also had it's problems, especially when firing on full-auto for extended periods. It's also a damn heavy rifle, but then it has to be in order to control a .308 cartridge on full-auto. The down side is the weight and the beating one takes from sustained fire. Unlike an M60, .308 again, which weighs almost three times as much and absorbs the recoil. On the other hand the M16 with it's 5.56 cartridge has little recoil and therefore does not need to weigh as much, hence less fatigue from carrying it around all day, and a lesser beating from sustained fire. <end rambling>
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Post by: Legs on March 07, 2003, 12:22:54 AM: I wondered how long it would take Big John to defend the M16 fmaily!! Leave him alone, you meanies!!!
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Post by: Wojo on March 07, 2003, 07:50:49 AM: Your right Harley, i must have mistaken it for fiber glass... ill keep an eye out for the same show again on the history channel, it was an hour about the m16 and how it came to be. History channel tends to show the same shows over and over again so like i said ill let you know [;)]
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Post by: Yankee on March 07, 2003, 03:29:06 PM: Yeah, the 5.56s were probably more appropriate for the jungle fighting anyway, with the earlier 308 FNs falling in line with the M14s as they were phased out later in the war. 'Course luckily for us shorter Asian soldiers the '16s were adapted for the conflict(as opposed to supplying the ARVN troops with full wood-and-steel 308s).
Title: New Classic Army "Armalite" logos on their AEG's..
Post by: Paco on March 04, 2003, 07:39:40 PM: (http://www.airsoftarizona.com/classicarmy/armalite1.jpg)
(http://www.airsoftarizona.com/classicarmy/armalite2.jpg)

Posted from an email I received from Classic Army:

"Please be informed that we will launch M15A4 Carbine, M15A4 Tactical Carbine & M15A4 Rifle using a real gun logo ~ Armalite, replacing the old M4A1, M4T and M16A3. Also there will be some new spare parts in the new rifles.

We will inform you when they are ready. The expected release day will be at the end of March.

Improvement of M15A4 CARBINE

Â² Metal Body

I. â€˜Armaliteâ€™ Real Gun Logo

II. Laser Script

Â² Improved material of Hard Grip, Foregrip and Retractable Stock

I. Change from Plastic to Nylon & Glass Fiber

Â² Individual Series no. will be added

Â² New Gears will be used

Â² Re-enforced Adaptor Ring for Foregrip

Â² New Version of Hop-up Chamber & Rubber

Â² High Speed & High Torque Motor

Improvement of M15A4 Tactical Carbine and M15A4 RIFLE

Â² Metal Body

I. â€˜Armaliteâ€™ Real Gun Logo

II. Laser Script

Â² Harder Fixed Stock which can use 10.8 V battery

Â² Individual Series no. will be added

Â² New Gears will be used

Â² Re-enforced Adaptor Ring for Foregrip

Â² New Version of Hop-up Chamber & Rubber

Â² High Speed & High Torque Motor