The Trouble with Vanguard

[Mooncruiser]

News to me. Awhile back, Vanguard and Havoc/Mauraders posted that they were having a game for Ron. As Paradox said, it was Big Bucks to get in.
Now, maybe the proceeds, all or part got to Ron and Marney. I'm saying I never heard if it did or not.
Brian ought to post here that the monies got to where they were supposed to, I think he does need to answer those concerns, even if he blows off the others

[Fresnel]

Yes they did..

http://www.airsoftarizona.com/index.php?topic=34371.0

$2955 with 60 people in attendance.

Um at $40 a head that's 2400.  You are saying the silent auction raised $500ish?

I was there, it was a big auction. Lot of players, lot of items.

I'm saying I never heard if it did or not.

Oh, okay, the implication was that you had heard it had not. But since the event was held on September 1st and nobody's heard about a big fit over it (and I'd expect a big fit from someone if three thousand dollars were withheld for over two months), I think it's safe to assume that money did in fact get to the Bilodeaus.

[Fung Li]

I've heard that evening midweek games are lacking in smallish children.  I've never been during then, but from the couple of guys I've spoken to say it's better in terms of gameplay and the staff are more cooperative and friendly.  This was a while back, however, I'm not sure how it is now.

[Old Dog]

Yes they did..

http://www.airsoftarizona.com/index.php?topic=34371.0

$2955 with 60 people in attendance.

Um at $40 a head that's 2400.  You are saying the silent auction raised $500ish?

Regarding The Fearfarm Benefit held for Ron recently...

Just curious, has anyone heard how much was given to Marney from the benefit that was held at fearfarm for Ron, with the event at vanguard bringing in almost $3000, at $40 a head, fearfarm at more dollars per head than vanguard should have raised a substantial amount equal to or above the $3000. figure for Ron...

Please post up the finals...

[theFlyingTrumpet]

Bob Z Moose, that was a great, insightful post. I'm glad this thread is staying mature.

[Shdsteel]

I do know we made 500$(or more) from just the raffle/silent auction alone.

[Shdsteel]

And sorry for my earlier statement, I meant to say that I didn't know vanguard had an event, and I assumed that the zombie hunter was getting mixed up and being seen as though it was at vanguard.

[Bob Z Moose]

Did you have the honor of the lil shits using the Riot shields?

Oh and the Nerf swords.. *Slaps Forehead*

No riot shields (sounds like there's a story there). I would have just lost it at that point. I understand the Nerf swords (to a point), but zombies could have easily been run without them. All the lights were out and almost nobody had bothered to bring a flashlight. There's a ton of blind corners and ratholes in the place, so sneaking up on people isn't a problem.

What I would like to see is a nice outdoor field  somewhere here on the East valley. Kind of like what Henry does at Fighter town.  I have explored a few options of purchasing land out here.

This.

Moose you mentioned them not kicking kids out for cheating. Which is very much the truth. Though they will be the first one to yell at you for ANYTHING in the staging area.  I lit off a blank 40mm round in the staging area, just full of green gas. One of the refs they had back then (The ref that was their tech at the time who stole parts from people's guns.) turn to me and said "Would you like to leave? Do that again and I will kick you out forever."  Only reason he said this I assume was because the guy jumped in fear when it went off.  Though, anyone who ever met him knows he looks like a pedophile.  Sorry that had no relevance to the subject.

I think it has a good bit of relevance. It shows what kind of people are hired to work there, which reflects on the owner's attitude and judgement.

Bob Z Moose, that was a great, insightful post. I'm glad this thread is staying mature.

Thanks... I should mention that I'm terrible at judging sarcasm on the interwebz.

[PhoenixShadowCompany]

Grand total counting admissions and raffle we made 1147. after deducting Fear farms half of total income and the cost of props we raised 500 for the charity account. I will be delivering the cash to Marney tomorrow at the funeral.



That said I want to make this clear, being I revived a really nasty/ lovely phone call from vanguard This thread is not endorsed by psc  We will not confirm or deny anything stated, But as of this time we have not revived the money from vanguard.

[XavierMace]

$647 in props?

[PhoenixShadowCompany]

 1147
-147    props
=1000
/ 2
= 500

$500 to fear farm $500 to ron $147 props does this make it clearer?

Marney her self has seen the financial standpoints from this game so I assure you everything is being sent that was raised. our agreement with fearfarm was a 50/50 split

[CryWulf]

And yes, one of them being a heavier set guy, and another a slender guy with dreads(or however you spell it).

Slender guy with dreads? Nobody currently works there with dreads, but I know who you were talking about. That guy was fired a long time ago

[XavierMace]

1147
-147    props
=1000
* 2
= 500

$500 to fear farm $500 to ron $147 props does this make it clearer?

Marney her self has seen the financial standpoints from this game so I assure you everything is being sent that was raised. our agreement with fearfarm was a 50/50 split

Proper punctuation would have made it more clear.

[PhoenixShadowCompany]

After reviving several PM's PSC will changing there stance on this situation. I have had many messages on both facebook and on airsoft Arizona station that Vanguard has been making comments that is a defamation of our name. After reviewing the facts I and my team stand by these statements. We have been down to vanguard twice now and both times they refused to give us the money from pre registration. At this point I have taken money out of my own pocket to make up for the lost funds until vanguard staff relinquishes it. It has gotten to the point that if they do not give us our money we will be obtaining a police escort . I have revived an extremely  hostile voice mail from Emily on the morning of Saturday 17 at approximation 8 am. In this messaged she went on saying that she cant believe after all they did for PSC that I would post such a thread. As you guys know this is the first time I have even posted in this topic. Now the fact that they accused us of being Thieves and a bad group. We will investigate this, if found that they did make this claim I personally will take Vanguard to court If not than we will just drop it and call it there loss. Those of you who know us know we are a good group and we run some amazing milsims. I hope these claims do change any opinions by are followers.

Thankyou everyone

Phoenix Shadow Company

[theFlyingTrumpet]

Wow.... Shit's gettin real. PSC, I'm sorry you seem to be getting the blame for this thread....

(And to clarify myself, I meant the whole make the kiddies cry thing as in teach the cheaters lessons by outsmarting and outplaying them while still following rules, therefore rendering myself untouchable by the refs. Lol. Foolhardy, at best....)

But really, with all of this VIP vs. PSC drama I feel like I'm in high school again.... Except this time it involves money and defamation.....