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Airsoft Hardware => Accessories & Gear => Topic started by: azsarge on March 12, 2005, 03:41:42 PM
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Eagle Industries Maritime Load Cariage System Rhodesian Recon Chest Rig. Thanks to Tina from Eagle for helping me get one of these into may paws! :)
Front view:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/cagdboy/MLCS-RRC001.jpg)
Inside view showing plate carrier compartment:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/cagdboy/MLCS-RRC002.jpg)
Lower row of PALS webbing snaps up into the panel and out of the way. Most Mag pouches are three rows tall, so this cleans up the outside when the lowest row is not in use:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/cagdboy/MLCS-RRC003.jpg)
This is cool. It's a frontal pocket that hides the bib when stowed, but is also lined with pile-side velcro on both sides.. 5.11 accessories come to mind, like a holster or pouch. NEATO!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/cagdboy/MLCS-RRC004.jpg)
Bib stowed, and lower row of PALS snapped up. Nice and tiny. Cute, huh?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/cagdboy/MLCS-RRC005.jpg)
It's bitchin'! I ordered Ranger Green (aka Smoke Green), but got OD. I emailed them about this, and it's being handled. It's loaded with cool features like:
-Coyote Brown National Molding side-release buckles
-Webbing on the straps for a strobe pouch or other small pocket
-Neat front pocket lined with velcro as pictured above.
-Additional straps to wear it crossed in the back, or "H" style (better for use with a pack).
-2 inch webbing sewn behind PALS webbing on front for attachment of ALICE pouches (like I would ever do that!)
-Hideaway bib and lower PALS row.
I got a metric a$$load of BLCS pouches from Diamondback that I need to throw on, so I'll post pics of that in a bit. Just wanted to give ya'll a first glance.
Any questions or additional pics you'd like posted? Let me know!
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I already knew this bad boy was comin....But DAMN Christian that is bitchin! Looks a little lighter than OD to me but thats probably the bright sun hitting it. Now we are all just waiting for those BLCS pouches aren't we? ;)
EDIT: Using the top Cross buckle system could you integrate a camelbak into that setup? Also..... I noticed on Eagles site that in the product pic they did stick a pistol in the Neato bib pocket as you so elequently put it. Please keep us updated as you fill er up with loads o' RG pouches. Did you happen to pick up ANY yesterday at DBT?
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Wow, you're right.. that's nicer than mine. Looks almost the same, but there are other diferences.
I also thought about slappin something in the velcro area/bib stow-away area on mine, but I wasn't sure. I know even the G36c mags could get lost in there!
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I think alot of companies are putting the velcro pockets into the carriers today. My weesatch has one that goes all the way down for storage of maps and such.
The other Day I was inspired by CAG D Boy talking about getting a new IRACK to try something. I had been thinking for a while if I could take the rear plate carrier off my Weesatch and turn it into a Cross over strap type system like the Hellcat's. Heres how I did it:
-Took off rear plate carrier
-Took out back strap but still used it, buckled it.
-Looped oposite ends of straps into back strap buckle ends(suprisingly there was enough room and it was still holding the adjustment)
-Folded down the bib and VOILA! Instant IRACK...well almost.
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those are some real nice rocks you got there. Oh, nice equipment too!
That looks killer, but whats the significant difference between this, and the BHI Recon chest harness? Visually looks the same, but is it more comfortable? Is it just the lower row of PALS webbing?
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those are some real nice rocks you got there. Oh, nice equipment too!
That looks killer, but whats the significant difference between this, and the BHI Recon chest harness? Visually looks the same, but is it more comfortable? Is it just the lower row of PALS webbing?
Quality Ian....
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those are some real nice rocks you got there. Oh, nice equipment too!
That looks killer, but whats the significant difference between this, and the BHI Recon chest harness? Visually looks the same, but is it more comfortable? Is it just the lower row of PALS webbing?
The difference is that mine is made by Eagle Industries and the BPG one is made by BPG.8)
To the layman, that translates into:
-better materials (name brand cordura versus "Nytaneon")
-Better thread
-Better stitching
-Matching hardware (coyote versus BLACK buckles of BPG, although they are starting to use matching buckles)
-Made in USA (St. Louis to be exact) versus Viet-freakin'-NAM like BPG.
All in all, the Blackhawk rig is fine. Being the afficianado that I am, I want the best, and this is it. Then again, it's 3 times the price of the BPG rig. If that matters to you, the BPG rig is a great value for 80 bucks.
Here's some pics of it loaded:
lids rolled
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/cagdboy/MLCS-RRC-BLCS001A.jpg)
lids used
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/cagdboy/MLCS-RRC-BLCS002A.jpg)
With the rubber stuff in the BLCS mag pouches, using them "open-top" is worry free.
Pouches are (L-R)
-BLCS 6004 adapter (with holster attached)
-BLCS Small GP
-BLCS Double M4/M16 mag
-BLCS Double M4/M16 mag
-BLCS Small Radio
-BLCS Admin/Flashlight pouch on the bib
They are all Ranger Green. Notice the difference between them and the OD platform. I am going to add a BLCS triple 9mm pouch on the Small GP and a Strobe pouch on the left shoulder strap. I have no room left on the rig itself! :P
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Lookin good, but that small radio pouch looks a little too tan to be Ranger green....Am I just color blind or what? Christian do you know the stock status of any of the same pouches in OD or RG over there? If they have what I want I think I will place another order first thing monday morning. Im wondering what your thoughts are on loading my OD rig with the BLCS RG pouches. Im beginning to like the RG look myself.
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Lookin good, but that small radio pouch looks a little too tan to be Ranger green....Am I just color blind or what? Christian do you know the stock status of any of the same pouches in OD or RG over there? If they have what I want I think I will place another order first thing monday morning. Im wondering what your thoughts are on loading my OD rig with the BLCS RG pouches. Im beginning to like the RG look myself.
You're right, and I forgot to mention that the Radio pouch is Coyote Brown (true 498 coyote ;) ).
I don't know the stock status, but they had enough for me. A quick call Monday AM will solve that issue.
Should you load up on RG pouches? Sh*t, I did. Does that answer your question?8) RG is a great color. RG and CB work well in most environments, so using them on another color rig will add 10 cool points and give you a little bit more camo. After all, what do you see on a rig, the pouches or the webbing? Whatever color pouch you choose is what color your rig will be.
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I will take that into consideration. One thing I noticed a while back but never gave much thought to was...On the weesatch the webbing and base material are two very different colors. The webbing is true OD while the base color is more of a lighter, more smoked color. Funny eh?
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I will take that into consideration. One thing I noticed a while back but never gave much thought to was...On the weesatch the webbing and base material are two very different colors. The webbing is true OD while the base color is more of a lighter, more smoked color. Funny eh?
Alot of gear is like that. I had a SpecOps Brand THE Pack with OD Cordura, and 2 different colors of PALS webbing.
Different lots of webbing come out in different colors sometimes.
This MLCS rig seems to match pretty well, and the BLCS pouches are dead on (webbing and Cordura match)..
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C,
Take a pic of yourself wearing your rig man....
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About those pouches, is there a way to fold away the front velcro? I don't use magpulls so it looks like I would probably be in danger of getting the velcro when I try to pinch out a new magazine.
Also with regard to color, and color variations, I sent some email to some friends that are still in (SF guys) and they said that they deliberately look for puches in assorted colors for their chest rigs, because it breaks up your pallet, like camo in a way. I had a pic but deleted it by mistake, trying to get it sent again. it was of a rig much like this one, in green, but the mag puches were 2 different greens, and 2 different brown/ tan colors. My mate said they tried it out and it helps until they can get the stuff they want in camo.
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Also, you said you ordered in smoke green? The web page only lists OD and Cyote as standard, and special colors on request. Did you special order for that color or is the web page maybe not up to date?
I can't wait for these things, or at least the pouches to start coming in muticam.
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I dont understand why everyone likes Multicam so much. Personally I wouldnt go near the shit unless given to me or at an incredible price. I'm gonna get spotted no matter what(unless im laying perfectly still, and in that case I would wear a ghillie of some kind).
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You know, I always think it is kinda funny when someone second guesses say, the army. I mean really, to even think as a seasoned vet who has seen action, that somehow I know more than all the people at defdev and all the people in the developement and implementation loop. Seriously, budget sometimes causes things to get issued that aren't as good as could be purchased, but to think they would completely reissue all the uniforms (a few million of them) without being pretty certain about it is insane.
Christian posted some pics in the multicam in one of these threads and I think it looked pretty good. Mind you I have some concernes about how light it looks (particularly at night) and I take issue with some of the velcro usage decisions, but hey I don't have the budget for research that the army has so...
Oh, and if wear any kind of ghilli here, you better have one helluva big camelback.
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LM that was my ACU's, not multiCam.
Busta, everyone likes Crye camo because it works. Imagine that they all must be retarded!
Back to the topic at hand...
...LM, that sounds about right regarding the different color pouches. I've read it before elsewhere.
We really need to meet up so I can show this thing in detail! In a short answer to your question, yes-the velcro folds out of the way. If you've never used this style of pouch, I think you will like it. It might seem strange in the pics, but it's a damn good design overall.
With regards to the color, I didn't get what I wanted plain and simple. I paid no extra, and there will be no extra charge for the Ranger Green version. You see, I got an OD MLCS rigwhen I wanted a Ranger Green RLCS rig. Eagle is going to fix it, and I will keep you guys posted. About the RG color, there are already several made for the Rangers.
OD and RG are more acceptable for service as well. With CB I might get a few strange looks from senior NCOs, and get a little extra attention. With green, I can't go wrong. It could be worse, I could be in a unit that makes me wear 100% issue gear!
If you want a MultiCam MLCS kit, call Eagle. If you want it, they'll do it.
Farslayer, I can't take a pic of myself in my kit uless I stand in front of a mirror. Then all my kit would appear backwards! :P
ning_Man
Posted: 12 Mar 2005 20:12 Post subject:
You know, I always think it is kinda funny when someone second guesses say, the army. I mean really, to even think as a seasoned vet who has seen action, that somehow I know more than all the people at defdev and all the people in the developement and implementation loop. Seriously, budget sometimes causes things to get issued that aren't as good as could be purchased, but to think they would completely reissue all the uniforms (a few million of them) without being pretty certain about it is insane.
Exactly.
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OD and RG are more acceptable for service as well. With CB I might get a few strange looks from senior NCOs, and get a little extra attention. With green, I can't go wrong. It could be worse, I could be in a unit that makes me wear 100% issue gear!
I've always wondered if you could wear your own gear in the Service or if they made you wear the issued stuff...unit specific I guess.
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Take a picture of it in the mirror, then flip it horizontally.
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those are some real nice rocks you got there. Oh, nice equipment too!
That looks killer, but whats the significant difference between this, and the BHI Recon chest harness? Visually looks the same, but is it more comfortable? Is it just the lower row of PALS webbing?
I know it was already answered, but besides quality, his still has a few other options than the BH one. Compare his and mine, for ex.
His will hold up better, probly feel better, has more webbing, and etc. The only thing I can say that I like more about mine is that it's cheaper.. and that it's got the extra set of "D-rings" on the straps so I can slap my Ambush Camelback straight to the vest
( http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/ ... 3300_1.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/irishman0556/Gear/60457133317_3300_1.jpg) )
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/irishman0556/Gear/60457226373_3300_1.jpg)
Not much visible diff, I guess. But I say mines fine for airsoft! :roll:
The same stuff is that we've both got the bib that can be tucked in, and all other obvious differences. The diff's are that his will stand up to probly.. alot more. The BH has the strap that goes around the waste that has webbing as well, as if I'd ever use it, though.
Not that I'm jealous or anything.. :evil:
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I also have a set of D rings that I can add or take off.
Oh, and some side-release buckles, too! 8)
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Go ahead.. Take every shread of pride I have in my vest away!
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What pisses me off is that now HSGI is making the satches with tri glides! They should replace the ones people have now with new ones, or upgrade them for free.
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What pisses me off is that now HSGI is making the satches with tri glides! They should replace the ones people have now with new ones, or upgrade them for free.
Or you could do it yourself.
Don't get pissed off about stuff like that, it's called "product improvement", and it's a good thing.
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I don't think I could, someone said they might do it for me for a small fee...
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So beautiful...
But Diamondback Tactical has a "storefront" where I can pick up items that I've ordered online, correct? I'm moving to about 10 minutes away from the address on their website so, if so, awesome.
Now all I need is 400 dollars.
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Uhh..Not a storefront persay, pickups are supposedly only for LE or MIl, but they have told me its fine to pick up my stuff...They just don't want everyone to do it.
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Exactly why I put it in quotes.
Once I'm ready to place my order I'll call them and see if a pick-up is plausable.
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What are you gonna be ordering?
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Low Vis. Rack along with several pouches.
Which reminds me... Manual loaders (pistol magazine type) better fit in 9mm or .45 pouches?
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They fit in 9mm with the flaps over, or tucked in. .45 Is probably too small. If you are planning on getting the triple or quad pistol pouches, good luck cause they are all out. And from what Anne told me on friday, most are spoken for if not all as soon as they come in. Which low vis RACK are you getting? They are several versions.
Also;what color are you planning to get all of this in? Are you gonna get RG? :P
Something DBT does not list on their website is that all of their ammo pouches have the "DETLOC" system. The way it was explain to me is that inside on one side their is a magnet sewn into the lining, then the rest of the sides are a rubbery type meterial to keep the mags in. The sad part is that airsoft mags are not sensitive to magnets, not even pistol mags.
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I was going to purchase a quad pistol pouch but I figured they were out of stock.
I planned to get all of my items in Coyote Brown because I normally wear DCUs for games. Because of this thread I'm thinking about Ranger Green... add some two tone.
Let me just put up a list of what I was going to purchase once I get the funds.
BattleLab Sensitive Site Exploitation Bag (for a spent mag bag)
BattleLab Hydration Patrol Pack
Four BL M4 Single Mag Pouches with 9mm Mag Pouch
BL Low Vix. Rack with MOLLE - LV3
BL GP Pouch, Small
BL Quad Pistol Mag Pouch 9mm
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And where do you suppose you are gonna put all this? If I read this correctly you are gonna have room for EIGHT m9 mags? Maybe you should just get the BLCS single M4 mag pouch that has webbing on it, then put the quad pistol mag pouch over it, and then put the GP pouch on the end of those. The SSE is pretty good from what I hear, You should mount that on your weak hand side, IE: right handed, mount on far left. I dont see why you need room for eight M9 mags, if you want to store a bunch of pistol loaders, you can always put them in your GP pouch. Or...Mount a triple M9 pouch on your GP.
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Or maybe I wasn't going to mount everything on the vest at once.
The vest itself holds I believe six M4 mags. On a skirmish I might not feel like holding 10 M4 mags, just the six on the vest. I'd then attach the quad pistol pouch for my speed loaders and go play.
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Ah I see, Either way, good luck and happy huntin for those pouches! Are you going to be attending Lion Claws?
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OD and RG are more acceptable for service as well. With CB I might get a few strange looks from senior NCOs, and get a little extra attention. With green, I can't go wrong. It could be worse, I could be in a unit that makes me wear 100% issue gear!
I've always wondered if you could wear your own gear in the Service or if they made you wear the issued stuff...unit specific I guess.
It really depends on what stuff you are talking about and more importantly on what unit and who is in charge. I know in special operations units there tends to be more freedom to use personal or custom gear. In a lot of line combat units they discourage it, in part because they want everyone to be familliar with everyone elses gear. That way if you die I know where to find your magazines and stuff.
That said, I know some elements ofline combat units (I am particularly talking about guys at the 101st, 11th acr, and 10 mountain) have been "adopting" custom gear on a unit by unit basis. I know a guy at the 101st who's platoon decided together as a whole to go with something non-standard and everyone purchased the same. There is also, from what I understand, an attitude in many units right now that everyone knows the old stuff is crap, and everyone knows it's going to be replaced, so why not let people that want to upgrade on their own. Finally, an article written about a unit commander in Iraq who was reprimanded for allowing his men to make use of personal and custom gear stated in his defense something to the effect that he was not willing to put politics before functionality and it was his call since he would be the one that had to write the letters.
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Shoot, they let us use whatever. The ONLY factor is that is is some sort of color already used (No Black, except for small items like pistol mag pouches), and it will carry issue SAPI plates if it's a plate carrier.
Since a few of the guys have started wearing chest rigs, the higher-ups have seen the usefulness versus a standard ELBV for vehicle operations.
I've seen everything from BHI and Eagle chest pouches to a Paraclete RAV. Most guys just use the ELBV though, because they don't give a rats ass.
For me, it's all about the Gucci!
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I don't think I could, someone said they might do it for me for a small fee...
I'll show you how.
Are you familiar with the Kifaru "Dock and Lock" system. Like that, but with different hardware.
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I don't think I could, someone said they might do it for me for a small fee...
I'll show you how.
Are you familiar with the Kifaru "Dock and Lock" system. Like that, but with different hardware.
Negative, care to fill me in O gear god?
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It involves cutting the hardware you have.
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Couldn't I just sew some tri glides onto where HSG is doing it now?
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You won't have to sew if you do it my way.
Sewing it will be much stronger however, so that would be the best way to go if you can find someone to do it.
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Hmm..the only person I KNOW with a good sewing machine is Tim. Where can I get some tri glides for that size webbing?
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Hmm..the only person I KNOW with a good sewing machine is Tim. Where can I get some tri glides for that size webbing?
http://www.nationalmolding.com
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Went to DBT today. Fifth time in 3 weeks, so they gave me a hat to keep me coming back!
Here's what I got for my kit:
BLCS Triple Pistol Mag pouch, 9mm
BLCS Strobe pouch (got this last week)
BL Sensetive Site Exploitation Bag
All in Coyote
Heres the MLCS kit, with strobe pouch on strap, and triple 9mm on the Small GP.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/cagdboy/DBTstuff001.jpg)
The pistol mag pouch lids can be stowed, like this:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/cagdboy/DBTstuff002.jpg)
My complimentary BattleLab ballcap:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/cagdboy/DBTstuff003.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/cagdboy/DBTstuff004.jpg)
All very nice, as expected from DBT. The pistol mags are on my strong side, which isn't what I usually do, but the PALS on the small GP was the only real estate I had left, aside from the right shoulder strap. I like my rifles mags weakside for easier reloads, so having my pistol mags on the other side is a small sacrifice I'm willing to make. This kit carries absolutely everything I will need at LC and any game in the 602! Including:
Sidearm
2 bags of BBs
Spare AEG battery
3 spare pistol mags
8 rifle mags
radio
loading tool (pistol-mag type)
loading tool (strobe type) or a strobe, depending on conditions
Rite-in-the-Rain pad and pencil
small binoculars
Any required maps or paperwork
2 Frags
Small Rations or energy bars.
All on one rig! I am currently considering my hydration options. I will probably go for a small pack like the kifaru E&E, but might settle for my issued Camelbak 3-liter. My legs are completely free of subloads, as my secondary is worn under the right arm on my rig. My back will be open excpet for the camelbak, and the straps are padded so comfort will not be an issue. I am very, very pleased with the way this kit turned out! :D
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Well 30 minutes and 3 very nice cust service reps later I am to received a Small radio pouch in CB, BL CQB belt in CB and a triple 9mm in OD within the next week. They cut me a deal on shipping I couldn't pass up. I just got my satch back from Tim and the stitching on the custom mod he did was amazing, good work Tim!
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Well 30 minutes and 3 very nice cust service reps later I am to received a Small radio pouch in CB, BL CQB belt in CB and a triple 9mm in OD within the next week. They cut me a deal on shipping I couldn't pass up. I just got my satch back from Tim and the stitching on the custom mod he did was amazing, good work Tim!
Sounds like you got hooked up, brother! ;)
I was pleased to find the 9mm pouches in-stock. I'm glad you finally got what you were waiting for. 8)
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Well 30 minutes and 3 very nice cust service reps later I am to received a Small radio pouch in CB, BL CQB belt in CB and a triple 9mm in OD within the next week. They cut me a deal on shipping I couldn't pass up. I just got my satch back from Tim and the stitching on the custom mod he did was amazing, good work Tim!
Sounds like you got hooked up, brother! ;)
I was pleased to find the 9mm pouches in-stock. I'm glad you finally got what you were waiting for. 8)
Yeah...I really got "hooked up" ;) ;)
Well I still want my damn quad in RG, along with 2 single open tops...But no go for a while..DAMN!
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That's badass, Christian. I'm gonna get the 3x (or if they have 4x, then that) .45 mag pouch, because I sold my Para, x2 extra mags and the BHI 2x pistol mag pouch to my bro, and using that money towards a WA S.C.W MEU. So, I hope DBT has one of those in stock.
It's off topic, but does anyone know of a place that has the WA S.C.W MEU Pistol in stock? I can't find anywhere