AZ trust Land & permits

[oscar pineda]

I dont get it people say that have been playing at hatfield for years and not its a no go field..did the owner of fighter town had something to do with these since hes loosing the airsoft player and loosing money. since hatfield a free play field.

[Archer]

I dont get it people say that have been playing at hatfield for years and not its a no go field..did the owner of fighter town had something to do with these since hes loosing the airsoft player and loosing money. since hatfield a free play field.

oscar i doubt that, that guy makes some much money off paint baller's it isnt even funny. airsoft is a small drop compared to the big picture over there. btu that is a good thought.

[Bambi-troopers]

I dont get it people say that have been playing at hatfield for years and not its a no go field..did the owner of fighter town had something to do with these since hes loosing the airsoft player and loosing money. since hatfield a free play field.

Haha! That is exactly what my dad said as we left. Not really seriously. But i could see a company trying to do that. Lol

[Fresnel]

Fresnel,if you heard what the sheriff said. We were allowed to play on the other side of hatfield rd. We ate checking it out extensively before we say its a go.

  @#!*% , guys, I'm not talking about that. You wanna move to a new spot that's not state land, cool. I'll probably be there too. I'm addressing the cowboys like Flick and Headhunter who want to keep playing on the field we just got kicked off of, and feign ignorance of the law when they get caught doing it.

no, its my opinion. im not going to really play there if we are not allowed to. i just think it is really  @#!*%  up that we have to do this because "its state land".and im not a cowboy.

That's not what you said yesterday. You said "I will", not "I think we should". But I'm just going to kill it here before XavierMace tells us to take it to PMs and shakes the banhammer menacingly in our general direction.

Though if you thought I was actually calling you a real-life professional cowboy, you should re-read your English book with emphasis on the chapter on "metaphors".

[longshot480]

you used to be able to get maps showing blm land and state land from the office..just get a map and figure out where the lines are drawn..then ask what permits are needed and you'll be good to go..noone can say anything about playing..

[Flick]

I'm addressing the cowboys like Flick and Headhunter who want to keep playing on the field we just got kicked off of

Hmm, I didn't mean to come across that way. My comments were from my experience playing Hatfield the last 12 years and occasionally having a LEO come by and question the activity, much like what happened this past Sunday. Happens to airsoft and paintball both. Play dies down for awhile and then picks back up. It's very cyclical and I believe it will continue to happen until progress resumes and the area is developed into tract housing.

To be clear, I understand the risks of playing renegade fields and I accept them. In this particular case, I accept that if I continue to play there, I may be ticketed and have to go to court and/or pay a fine. I accept that risk and those consequences, just like I accept the other risks associated, such as tire damage, injuries and so on. It is up to each person to conduct their own personal risk assessment as to when and where they play and proceed as they deem fit.

Now, this is very likely moot anyway as I've been working with Chip to verify that Hatfield West is indeed BLM land and viable for play. As he says above, stand by for details (and yes, we think everyone's going to like it!)

Peter

[Mooncruiser]

Y'know Peter, might have to rename the new field to avoid confusion with the old one. Since you get Naming Rights, -might I suggest Flick's Field..

[ThatGuy]

The field shall be named Thatguy's field lol.



No wait how about thatguy's emporium  of airsoft awesomeness

[SilentDragon]

Yes, we are currently investigating other areas viable for use.  We are hoping to find something close by so that way we can keep our turnouts as good as they have been.  Lately, we have been getting quite a turnout.  One area we are looking into may also be much larger... so having a nice turnout wont seem too "crowded" on a small field. 

[PhoenixShadowCompany]

I'm addressing the cowboys like Flick and Headhunter who want to keep playing on the field we just got kicked off of

Hmm, I didn't mean to come across that way. My comments were from my experience playing Hatfield the last 12 years and occasionally having a LEO come by and question the activity, much like what happened this past Sunday. Happens to airsoft and paintball both. Play dies down for awhile and then picks back up. It's very cyclical and I believe it will continue to happen until progress resumes and the area is developed into tract housing.



To be clear, I understand the risks of playing renegade fields and I accept them. In this particular case, I accept that if I continue to play there, I may be ticketed and have to go to court and/or pay a fine. I accept that risk and those consequences, just like I accept the other risks associated, such as tire damage, injuries and so on. It is up to each person to conduct their own personal risk assessment as to when and where they play and proceed as they deem fit.

Now, this is very likely moot anyway as I've been working with Chip to verify that Hatfield West is indeed BLM land and viable for play. As he says above, stand by for details (and yes, we think everyone's going to like it!)

Peter

when it comes down to it leo's are not the ones who over see state trust land.

[Plauge]

I'll try to find a location of it but it's called Atlantis it's like 15 20 mins away from hatfield

[Flick]

I'll try to find a location of it but it's called Atlantis it's like 15 20 mins away from hatfield

I wonder if that's the one that I know as Morgan City Wash:
 http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Morgan+City+Wash,+Peoria,+AZ&sll=33.821424,-112.276273&sspn=0.033977,0.052314&vpsrc=0&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Morgan+City+Wash&t=h&z=15&iwloc=A
I haven't been there in years....

[Plauge]

I'll try to find a location of it but it's called Atlantis it's like 15 20 mins away from hatfield

I wonder if that's the one that I know as Morgan City Wash:
 http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Morgan+City+Wash,+Peoria,+AZ&sll=33.821424,-112.276273&sspn=0.033977,0.052314&vpsrc=0&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Morgan+City+Wash&t=h&z=15&iwloc=A
I haven't been there in years....


Is there remains off buildings

[Flick]

Y'know Peter, might have to rename the new field to avoid confusion with the old one. Since you get Naming Rights, -might I suggest Flick's Field..

That made me smile, thanks! I've scouted out a few fields over the years but never thought of that as a name. Usually name them for something nearby. That's where "Hatfield West" came from. It's, well, west of Hatfield. 

Seriously though, thank you. Let's save the memorial field names for when I'm dust and gone. 

Peter

[Flick]

Is there remains off buildings

No, it's in the Agua Fria riverbed just south of the Carefree Highway. A mixture of high ground, low ground, "jungle" shrubbery and open spaces. Here're some photos from a paintball outing a few years ago: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jaft/sets/1795050/with/84041204/. Picture's worth a thousand words and all that...

The only place I ever went with buildings, at least on a renegade field, was down in Florence. I'd love to find something up in the NW valley.

Peter